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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Rump View Post
    I've never liked Cory Booker. He tries too hard to be the next BO of the party. And it just comes off as so inauthentic.
    He is a total tryhard. There was a good PBS documentary several years ago about his first (unsuccessful) run for mayor of Newark. Great doc, an interesting look at the nasty side of local machine politics. Booker looked then, as he does now, like he checks all the boxes, but something just doesn’t scan right for me.

    Anyone with those kinds of aspirations is by nature ambitious, but some people just wear it better than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    ? You mean press or someone else?

    I think ultimately he gets 51-52 votes and is confirmed.
    I think the likeliest outcome is that he gets confirmed, and maybe even with a couple of D votes (I’m looking at Manchin and Heitkamp). Still, there’s a legit chance that something else pops in the next week that sinks him. I still lean the other way, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The person all this has shown to be the biggest idiot in Congress is Sen Hirono. Some of the stuff she's said has been downright crazy.
    Worse than Graham, Grassley, Collins, Cruz
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    Hmmm
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    I imagine the FBI will interview Chris Garrett aka Squi
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The person all this has shown to be the biggest idiot in Congress is Sen Hirono. Some of the stuff she's said has been downright crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The person all this has shown to be the biggest idiot in Congress is Sen Hirono. Some of the stuff she's said has been downright crazy.



    GOP Congressman Shares Vile Meme About Christine Blasey Ford

    Rep. Steve King’s Facebook page shared a meme disparaging the woman who accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault.
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    The verified Facebook page for Republican Congressman Steve King’s re-election campaign posted a vile meme this week disparaging Christine Blasey Ford, the research psychologist who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to rape her in the 1980s.

    The meme, posted to King’s Facebook page on Wednesday, features a photo of Blasey wearing sunglasses. An edited version of the image next to it depicts Blasey with the sunglasses removed, revealing her to actually be Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate.

    “I KNEW IT!” reads the accompanying text. “ah-HA!!! ,” King’s campaign wrote as the caption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The person all this has shown to be the biggest idiot in Congress is Sen Hirono. Some of the stuff she's said has been downright crazy.

    Sure, go ahead use "hysterical"
    she was hysterical, unhinged, emotional, or any of those other words that wink and nod
    /////////////////

    After the **** show we all were exposed to last week, a first term Senator from a state many (R) consider a foreign land was "the biggest idiot " ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The person all this has shown to be the biggest idiot in Congress is Sen Hirono. Some of the stuff she's said has been downright crazy.
    Stiff competition.

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    As I was about to leave to get back to my office for a meeting, Sen. Lindsey Graham entered the hallway and stopped to speak with the press.




    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0343b3dc02b41
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    enough about the politics.
    Let's get back to Kavanaugh and what happened this week:



    Nate Silver
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    Nate Silver Retweeted PoliMath

    Or maybe Republicans should use the fact that he lied under oath to extricate themselves from a very difficult position and pull the nomination. Or maybe they should forgive it. I don't know what anyone should do. It's obvious that he lied under oath, though.

    Nate Silver added,
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    Then Dems should prosecute him for lying under oath.


    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...48161771474944


    and the ball begins to roll
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    A little bit out there, but I think Jim Sleeper makes some good points here. America has always had a class system that the elite fails to acknowledge (and that transgression is bipartisan).

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/0...as-even-worse/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    A little bit out there, but I think Jim Sleeper makes some good points here. America has always had a class system that the elite fails to acknowledge (and that transgression is bipartisan).

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/0...as-even-worse/
    we had this same conversation over "W" on these boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    enough about the politics.
    Let's get back to Kavanaugh and what happened this week:



    Nate Silver
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    Nate Silver Retweeted PoliMath

    Or maybe Republicans should use the fact that he lied under oath to extricate themselves from a very difficult position and pull the nomination. Or maybe they should forgive it. I don't know what anyone should do. It's obvious that he lied under oath, though.

    Nate Silver added,
    PoliMath
    @politicalmath
    Then Dems should prosecute him for lying under oath.


    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...48161771474944


    and the ball begins to roll
    This is the genuinely weird part to me. Republicans (and their backers here) are focusing a lot on Kavanaugh’s vehement and emotional defense of himself in his opening statement, but completely glossing over the fact that he dissembled his way through the questioning. Even if you take umbrage at the timing and nature of the allegations, seems like he shouldn’t get a pass for that.

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    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...talk-last-year


    "Last year, when MLB contacted me, I wasn't ready," Reidy-Russell said in an interview with ESPN. "I didn't know what was the right thing to do. I didn't even believe in myself enough to think I should do that [cooperate]. I just left my husband and all this blew up."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    we had this same conversation over "W" on these boards.
    I didn't agree with W on a lot of things, but at least he manned up about his past and showed some level of contrition.

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    I was ready (almost) to give him a (slight ) benefit of the doubt until this week when it was reported he was making calls on BK's behalf to wavering Senators

    SOB knowingly lied us into a war where we needlessly killed, reports of up to, a half a million people
    The rest can be chalked up to gross in over his headed ness.

    I was where they were counting the ballots (hanging chads) when they stopped the recount.
    Been thinking about that while following this weeks events
    I can't blame him for that. But all the same it left a bad taste in my mouth for all things "W"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Worse than Graham, Grassley, Collins, Cruz
    Etal


    Hmmm
    Your list reveals that your judgement is based on partisanism. I don't consider disagreement with my politics to make someone look bad.

    The reason Hirono looks bad is because she's saying crazy stuff. Stuff that makes no logical sense.

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    The American Bar Association had concerns about Kavanaugh 12 years ago. Republicans dismissed those, too.
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    Hirono argued that Kavanaugh's denials are less believable because he's "outcome driven" as a judge and against "reproductive choice". Essentially, she disagrees with him politically and so he's not believable. Most people find political opponents less credible but she's openly saying it.

    She's also argued women accusing men of sexual assault should automatically be believed. The whole presumption of innocence thing be damned.

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    "outcome driven" judges

    being an attorney nd all I am certain you are familiar with this:

    /////////////////////////////
    ABA MODEL CODE OF
    JUDICIAL CONDUCT

    FEBRUARY 2007
    PREAMBLE


    [1]
    An independent, fair and impartial judiciary is indispensable to our system
    of justice. The United States legal system is
    based upon the principle that an independent,
    impartial, and competent judiciary, com
    posed of men and women of integrity, will
    interpret and apply the law th
    at governs our society. Thus,
    the judiciary plays a central
    role in preserving the principles of justice a
    nd the rule of law. Inherent in all the Rules
    contained in this Code are the precepts that judges, individually and collectively, must
    respect and honor the judicial o
    ffice as a public trust and strive to maintain and enhance
    confidence in the legal system.

    [2]
    Judges should maintain the dignity of judicial office at all times, and avoid both
    impropriety and the appearance of impropriety
    in their professional and personal lives.
    They should aspire at all times to conduct
    that ensures the great
    est possible public
    confidence in their independence, impartiality, integrity, and competence.

    [3]
    The Model Code of Judicial Conduct establishes standards for the ethical conduct
    of judges and judicial candidates. It is not intended as an
    exhaustive guide for the conduct
    of judges and judicial candidates, who are governed in their judicial
    and personal conduct
    by general ethical standards as well as by
    the Code. The Code is intended, however, to
    provide guidance and assist judges in maintaining the highest standards of judicial and
    personal conduct, and to provide a basis for regulating their conduct through disciplinary
    agencies.
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