Depressing that Kavanaugh is going to get a lifetime appointment to the supreme court when he couldn't even bother to testify truthfully.
selectively deciding when perjury matters is, in fact, depressing.
he's also hyper-partisan. obviously we know where each justice generally stands. kavanaugh literally declared retribution to democrats (and the clintons...?) because a woman came forward with assault allegations against him.
i at least respect gorsuch as a person.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
CK86 (10-04-2018)
statements made under oath have been considered to be corroboration until now. it's blatantly clear kavanaugh lied repeatedly throughout this process. i have no idea why that doesn't matter to more people. he's obviously lying about certain things for a reason.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
CK86 (10-04-2018)
also, simply saying "it was so long ago" doesn't mean much. the investigation was anything but that. not interviewing Ford at all would be bizarre for an investigation. stating it will last a week is not an investigation. it was designed to be a sham from the start, and that fact wasn't even hidden.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
That’s pretty much my take. I think that both Ford’s and Ramirez’s accusations are quite likely true, but the truth here is ultimately a casualty to a shell game about evidentiary standards, etc. I also think that Kav’s lies about drinking were material, as they went directly at establishing both his general credibility and the possibility that such incidents could have occurred. I agree that they were probably—quite intentionally—crafted in a way to keep him clear of a perjury charge.
I think that she offered credible testimony and he did not, but here we are. I agree with striker that this is obviously a political issue, and one in which none of the electeds on either side have particularly distinguished themselves.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
nsacpi (10-04-2018)
What surprises me is people don't realize that lying is pretty much part of the SCOTUS confirmation process these days. Senators from the party adverse to the candidate try to ask gotcha questions or questions to make the candidate look bad and the candidate answers evasively.
The real root of the problem here probably isn't that Kavanaugh lied, it's that he didn't do a good job lying. He should have been more artful in his evasion. Honestly, the lack of being able to cleverly maneuver out of the way of the questions is a bigger red flag to me than his lying. I expect a SCOTUS justice to be more facile in his ability to flip questions on their head.
Trump will never be convicted of impeachment because it takes a two-thirds vote in the Senate and that would be an absolute longshot. I'm more referring to an instance where Trump does something egregiously against the Republican base (which could happen if the Democrats take the Senate and Trump decides to be Trump), which would open him up to a challenge at the convention in 2020 (think Teddy Kennedy taking on Carter). Pence would likely be politically neutered in such a situation because he would be tied to Trump as his running mate. That is just spitballing. I think a more likely scenario is that Trump would decide not to run again, but that is difficult for me to imagine as well.
Pelosi is on record opposing impeachment of either DJT or BK should (D) win the House
an overlooked scenario ---- John McCain still in Senate - how would he have voted
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
CK86 (10-04-2018)