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    Play GM with imaginary budget

    Curious to see how some would handle being GM if Liberty came to you and said

    2018 budget is 130 million
    2019 budget is 140 million and will remain there for the next 2 more years.

    Any savings can be applied to the following years budget.
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    $130M in 2018 is crazy talk.

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    Isn't that exactly what several posters do here all the time? The place is loaded with fantasy league team owners, who think they're MLB GM's. They also always know the budget thresholds in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Isn't that exactly what several posters do here all the time? The place is loaded with fantasy league team owners, who think they're MLB GM's. They also always know the budget thresholds in advance.
    More curious if folks would even try to spend the whole budget this season or save in a non contending season and go bigger in a better FA class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    More curious if folks would even try to spend the whole budget this season or save in a non contending season and go bigger in a better FA class.
    Consider the fact that contention is not strictly related to budget. Too many posts of the "not until 2023" variety. Nobody here knows exactly when they'll take it to the next level. Last time they won the division with Fredi never here expected it.

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    I’d probably sign a couple of good bullpen arms this offseason and try to eat 75% of Kemp’s deal to get him gone. Hold the rest to make a splash next offseason like Donaldson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    $130M in 2018 is crazy talk.
    Curious ... what does "imaginary" mean to you?

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    Since the Braves missed the revenue goal badly, the budget will be restricted by Liberty Media this year. I see it going back down to 110 million, thus, why we've seen a lot of trades to get the budget down.
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    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    If camargo is our 3B then why did we non tender both jace and Danny. We have to go sign a utility guy now too if Jo-gun is a starter.
    You could acquire Prado as part of a deal to get one the marlins outfielders. 50 pointed it out. Getting a utility guy should not be a difficult task.

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    I don’t think AA is clearing payroll bc he has to. I think he’s doing it to make a bigger move for either the OF or 3b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I don’t think AA is clearing payroll bc he has to. I think he’s doing it to make a bigger move for either the OF or 3b.
    A Prado & Yelich or Ozuna deal handles both items with Prado providing support for Camargo if he falters as well as being a backup 1b/2b/3b and when Swanson needs some time you just shift Camargo to ss and Prado to 3b

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    A Prado & Yelich or Ozuna deal handles both items with Prado providing support for Camargo if he falters as well as being a backup 1b/2b/3b and when Swanson needs some time you just shift Camargo to ss and Prado to 3b
    That’s what i was thinking. I know that Yelich would cost more but he’s signed a lot longer too. Prado and Yelich i would definitely be in for. Anybody but Gohara, Acuna, Albies, Swanson, or Wright and I’m good with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    That’s what i was thinking. I know that Yelich would cost more but he’s signed a lot longer too. Prado and Yelich i would definitely be in for. Anybody but Gohara, Acuna, Albies, Swanson, or Wright and I’m good with it.
    I think we can put together a package excluding those guys that approach the surplus value of a yelich/Prado package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think we can put together a package excluding those guys that approach the surplus value of a yelich/Prado package.
    Really? What do you think the surplus value of a Yelich/Prado package is?

    What group of players from the Braves approximates that value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'd rather make the pen the strength of the team and let Camargo play at third. With his defense alone we are going to get an average third baseman.

    When your starting rotation is going to be billed with kids that aren't likely to consistently go 6 innings then you better have a great pen if you want to win games. I'd sign 2 guys to a 3 year deal at a AAV of 8-12 million. I still believe if they become superfluous in a year or two you can still trade them for good value.

    I like the idea of Minor/Morrow now but you can convince me to exchange one of those with Addison Reed.

    No upgrades in the starting rotation. Absolutely have to find out if Fried is a major league starter this season. Leave third base alone. Think about locking up Albies/Acuna NOW.
    You do realize that if the Braves win the bidding for a FA BP arm that means the Braves paid absolute top dollar nobody else was willing to pay, right? How exactly would a player have surplus value a year later in such a scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think this is more what I am saying. I feel cutting jace and Danny says that AA is thinking of another option for 3B
    He almost has to be.

    Unless....

    Unless we are about to see a $100M payroll while the Braves “see what they have” with the Camargo/Ruiz/Adonis trio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    He almost has to be.

    Unless....

    Unless we are about to see a $100M payroll while the Braves “see what they have” with the Camargo/Ruiz/Adonis trio.
    Shh. Just channel your inner thethe
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Shh. Just channel your inner thethe
    Absolute worst case scenario they have about $12M to spend in 2018. I can’t imagine they will be forced to lower payroll below $100M. If they stay cheap in the rotation and BP, they can afford to add Frazier at 3B. A Mous signing wouldn’t surprise me, but I would be mildly against it.

    They had to have been clearing payroll as a precursor to making a moderately sized addition, and the most glaring hole on the roster is 3b (assuming they let Markakis play out his contract in LF).

    I’m still holding out hope for an Ozuna/Prado package.

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    Have the Marlins confirmed a full tear down?

    I don’t understand the purpose of selling their good and cheap assets otherwise.

    They can probably move Stanton and Prada and get close to the 85-90 range That is supposed to be their goal.
    Last edited by Southcack77; 12-02-2017 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Absolute worst case scenario they have about $12M to spend in 2018. I can’t imagine they will be forced to lower payroll below $100M. If they stay cheap in the rotation and BP, they can afford to add Frazier at 3B. A Mous signing wouldn’t surprise me, but I would be mildly against it.

    They had to have been clearing payroll as a precursor to making a moderately sized addition, and the most glaring hole on the roster is 3b (assuming they let Markakis play out his contract in LF).

    I’m still holding out hope for an Ozuna/Prado package.
    I wouldn’t assume either Markakis or Kemp are on the team. AA might be on board with them being sunk costs. Maybe save 3-5 per year trading Kemp and save 7-8 mil for Markakis

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