Rural Southerners are so poor and dumb

[jpx7]

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Btw, I feel like this discussion has a lot more life in it yet.

[BedellBrave]

Dayton, TN (Rhea County) is actually a pretty cool area. I grew up right next to it in a much smaller and poorer town called Decatur and still live about 30 miles away in Cleveland. The Scopes Monkey Trial took place in Dayton. It's a pretty town with a cool history. It also has a kick-ass Brewery called Monkey Town Brewery that opened recently and produces some very tasty micro-brews along with a solid food menu. It's worth stopping by if you are passing by this way.

And if any of the non-Southerners happen to be blessed to pass through the greater Charlotte area, let me know. We've got 6 microbreweries within a 10-15 minute drive.

[BedellBrave]

Vegas has that seediness. Fremont Street.

Downtown Reno is one of the most depressing places I've ever been. And I love places like Liverpool and Detroit.

Just hold your nose and keep driving until you get to Tahoe.

Do you have to drive through it to get to Tahoe? Please say "no."

[BedellBrave]

ha...yes

btw the rural South has nothing on certain parts of upstate NY when it comes to societal dysfunction.

And NH and Maine. Oh my.

[thethe]

And NH and Maine. Oh my.

Don't discount parts of Suffolk here in long island.

[BedellBrave]

Plan to spend a few days there post-Christmas after yuletiding in upper Arizona. Luckily Phoenix and Vegas are two of the easier places to get to from Missoula on the quick&cheap (thanks to Allegiant).

Old Vegas is what took me from hating Las Vegas to being fiercely ambivalent about it.

^^^ Good one, well worth using again.

[nsacpi]

And if any of the non-Southerners happen to be blessed to pass through the greater Charlotte area, let me know. We've got 6 microbreweries within a 10-15 minute drive.

I like charlotte...i have a client visit there every july...will be in touch

[nsacpi]

And NH and Maine. Oh my.

I drove up to Quebec through Maine this summer...the contrast between the Canadian and American sides of the border is not flattering to us...i stopped at the last town in Maine and had a hot dog...im pretty sure it was a kind of meat I've never had before

[BedellBrave]

I like charlotte...i have a client visit there every july...will be in touch

Do!

[thethe]

I drove up to Quebec through Maine this summer...the contrast between the Canadian and American sides of the border is not flattering to us...i stopped at the last town in Maine and had a hot dog...im pretty sure it was a kind of meat I've never had before

Most of the large cities in Canada are on the US border. Doesn't that tell you something and gives you a reason why their border cities are much nicer than ours?

[nsacpi]

Btw, I feel like this discussion has a lot more life in it yet.

the grease is a little greasier on Fremont Street...as it should be

[nsacpi]

Most of the large cities in Canada are on the US border. Doesn't that tell you something and gives you a reason why their border cities are much nicer than ours?

I understand that...but I'm talking about a comparison involving small towns

[thethe]

I understand that...but I'm talking about a comparison involving small towns

But even then. Those are the prime real estate spots in the Canadian real estate market. Its nothing to the American market.

[nsacpi]

But even then. Those are the prime real estate spots in the Canadian real estate market. Its nothing to the American market.

yeah...not an apples to apples comparison...but I've become a big fan of canada

[Hawk]

ha...yes

btw the rural South has nothing on certain parts of upstate NY when it comes to societal dysfunction.

You can add Rhode Island (ex-Providence) to that list. The SO finished up school in PVD this summer, so I was shuttling between Boston and RI every weekend for about a year. I was kind of shocked that a little enclave wedged between Connecticut and Massachusetts could be so damn hick, but it was. Saw more Trump paraphernalia around Warwick/Kingstown/Narragansett than I did anywhere in the South. That being said, and maybe it's because I grew up in a hick state and can wear the mask pretty well when the company demands, I did grow a unique fondness for RI.

[thethe]

yeah...not an apples to apples comparison...but I've become a big fan of canada

Montreal is amazing.

[nsacpi]

Montreal is amazing.

keep driving up to quebec...well worth it

[nsacpi]

You can add Rhode Island (ex-Providence) to that list. The SO finished up school in PVD this summer, so I was shuttling between Boston and RI every weekend for about a year. I was kind of shocked that a little enclave wedged between Connecticut and Massachusetts could be so damn hick, but it was. Saw more Trump paraphernalia around Warwick/Kingstown/Narragansett than I did anywhere in the South. That being said, and maybe it's because I grew up in a hick state and can wear the mask pretty well when the company demands, I did grow a unique fondness for RI.

it's an odd place...i mostly drive right through without stopping...but when I stop I usually find something interesting...maybe I should stop more often

[Hawk]

Plan to spend a few days there post-Christmas after yuletiding in upper Arizona. Luckily Phoenix and Vegas are two of the easier places to get to from Missoula on the quick&cheap (thanks to Allegiant).

Old Vegas is what took me from hating Las Vegas to being fiercely ambivalent about it.

I'll be there on NYE, although not exactly by choice. I waited a little too long to make proper holiday plans and was looking at $900RT out of SFO (which I really couldn't bring myself to spring for, out of principle - that's like 2.5 flights to Europe) to basically anywhere in the South on the dates I needed. Fortunately, found very cheap flights out of Vegas, with the requirement that the return leg be on the 31st. Found a room on the Strip that night using points (fortunately). So Vegas 2018 it is, baby.

[BedellBrave]

keep driving up to quebec...well worth it

Quebec City is great. I like PEI & Nova Scotia too.