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    What a sH't storm this guy is for Alabama and the GOP. Looks like a lose/lose situation. He wins and further stains an already struggling political party for a generation, or he loses, leaving Trump the last pervert in the spotlight. A Moore win also sets up another GOP poot party in Washington as they decide to allow "the honorable man from the great state of Alabama" into their ranks.

    He doesn't seem to be wearing the cowboy hat anymore. What's up with that?


    What's best, or worse, for the GOP?

    Meanwhile, Trump is on the way --Donald in the Deep South. LMAO. I have to admit it. The thought of him and his cabal spending several days among the southern contingent puts a bounce in my giddyup. If he fails to deliver More it could be his Waterloo. If he does deliver, it will be the GOP's. Good times.

    Maybe Trump will move Mar-a-Lago to Gadsden County.
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    The reality: He'll win (which is sad - but says more about Alabama than it does the Republican party), it'll be treated as the second coming of the apocalypse for a few days, and then the only time we'll ever hear about him again is when he makes an ideologically conservative vote or comment in the Senate.

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    protestations ring hollow:

    JUST IN: President Trump has recorded a robo-call in support of Pedophile, Rapist, and Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, a White House official confirms
    ..........

    So let's cut to the quick. If you support Donald Trump in any way -- you support Roy Moore.
    And if you support Roy Moore you support a man who in his 30's was banned from the local mall because he couldn't stay away from under age girls

    In effect, you support grown men "bothering" underage girls

    Oh my, I remember hearing abour :personal responsibility" well, this is what it means.
    ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    If you support Donald Trump in any way -- you support Roy Moore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    I wonder if Pocahontas votes using her Tribal ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The reality: He'll win (which is sad - but says more about Alabama than it does the Republican party), it'll be treated as the second coming of the apocalypse for a few days, and then the only time we'll ever hear about him again is when he makes an ideologically conservative vote or comment in the Senate.
    I'm not sure if that's true given Trump is firmly supporting him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The reality: He'll win (which is sad - but says more about Alabama than it does the Republican party), it'll be treated as the second coming of the apocalypse for a few days, and then the only time we'll ever hear about him again is when he makes an ideologically conservative vote or comment in the Senate.
    So you think the Senate will accept him and he'll become just another conservative. That works for me.
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    How many people are staying silent about this repugnant **** because they want their tax cut?#complicit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    So you think the Senate will accept him and he'll become just another conservative. That works for me.
    Accept is a relative term. I think he'll try to fashion himself as Ted Cruz incarnate, except more self-righteous (if that were possible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The reality: He'll win (which is sad - but says more about Alabama than it does the Republican party), it'll be treated as the second coming of the apocalypse for a few days, and then the only time we'll ever hear about him again is when he makes an ideologically conservative vote or comment in the Senate.
    well, except you know, the republican party now being this by embracing the likes of the orange one and this sack of ****


    so weird to sell your soul in the short term

    unless the goal is to destroy everything this country was and remaking the country to the ideas of moore and his pathetic ilk
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    well, except you know, the republican party now being this by embracing the likes of the orange one and this sack of ****


    so weird to sell your soul in the short term

    unless the goal is to destroy everything this country was and remaking the country to the ideas of moore and his pathetic ilk
    You identify as a progressive and you are railing on people trying to change America? Thats the very definition of what you believe in. If anything, people like Moore want to keep America what is was and what made us get to this level. And before you do it no this doesn't meant hat we are going back to slavery but I'm sure you'll make this emotional argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You identify as a progressive and you are railing on people trying to change America? Thats the very definition of what you believe in. If anything, people like Moore want to keep America what is was and what made us get to this level. And before you do it no this doesn't meant hat we are going back to slavery but I'm sure you'll make this emotional argument.
    i don't know if i have ever labeled myself as a progressive

    left leaning libertarian sure

    secularist, again sure

    some friends and i joke that i'm the most capitalist communist ever to point out that it depends on the topic to where i fall on political spectrum but i digress


    not that i have a problem with progressivism overall but what you are describing isn't that

    i'm not sure what dots are you are trying to connect at the end but it seems like rubbish

    what the orange dotard is doing isn't changing america in anyway that is close to progressive and it should be laughed at for you trying to say that



    but as i said with [MENTION=266]Hawk[/MENTION] and maybe others, the odd thing with this idiot in chief is that he could actually bridge the gap and bring people to together if he tried but he either is too stupid or just doesn't care to do that. I guess it could be both though as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    well, except you know, the republican party now being this by embracing the likes of the orange one and this sack of ****


    so weird to sell your soul in the short term

    unless the goal is to destroy everything this country was and remaking the country to the ideas of moore and his pathetic ilk
    The Republican party now being what, exactly? Get it up, articulate it.

    I'm more concerned with the Republican party supporting a man who, by all accounts, may still believe homosexuality should be illegal.

    But (and I raised this point a month ago) we haven't been able to suss out whether there's any currency to this previously expressed belief, because Moore's been too busy riding a wave of electoral capital that people like you have gifted him by making retarded pedophilia accusations and using them as the sole body of reasoning beyond why Moore should not be elected.

    Inform yourself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.80b1c036b5a5

    You are no better than Pizzagate ascribers.

    You are just as complicit in this as people actually voting for the man. Perpetuating this bull****.

    Calling Roy Moore a pedophile - and making the entire argument about pedophilia - is like Manna from heaven for the man that drags around a veritable sack of ideological atom bombs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Calling Roy Moore a pedophile - and making the entire argument about pedophilia - is like Manna from heaven for the man that drags around a veritable sack of ideological atom bombs.
    I said the same thing around the same time. Moore may have been—may even still be—a predatory ephebophile, but there are so many more reasons he's a monstrous choice for the Senate—including many actions he's taken as a jurist, and ideological opinions he's espoused respective to how our government works, that are actually illegal (unlike his high-school-pool dating proclivities, which—if consensual—would have at least been legal when he engaged in them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I said the same thing around the same time. Moore may have been—may even still be—a predatory ephebophile, but there are so many more reasons he's a monstrous choice for the Senate—including many actions he's taken as a jurist, and ideological opinions he's espoused respective to how our government works, that are actually illegal (unlike his high-school-pool dating proclivities, which—if consensual—would have at least been legal when he engaged in them).
    Precisely. And if we're talking about things which would unequivocally tarnish actual, important (and fledgling) Republican brands, it would be wagon-hitching to an admitted gay persecutionist or civil liberties eschewer or any of the other number angles you could absolutely nail Moore on.

    That he's skipping away from all of these things, completely unscathed, is disheartening to me on so many levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The Republican party now being what, exactly? Get it up, articulate it.

    I'm more concerned with the Republican party supporting a man who, by all accounts, may still believe homosexuality should be illegal.

    But (and I raised this point a month ago) we haven't been able to suss out whether there's any currency to this previously expressed belief, because Moore's been too busy riding a wave of electoral capital that people like you have gifted him by making retarded pedophilia accusations and using them as the sole body of reasoning beyond why Moore should not be elected.

    Inform yourself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.80b1c036b5a5

    You are no better than Pizzagate ascribers.

    You are just as complicit in this as people actually voting for the man. Perpetuating this bull****.

    Calling Roy Moore a pedophile - and making the entire argument about pedophilia - is like Manna from heaven for the man that drags around a veritable sack of ideological atom bombs.
    exactly, i don't know what the republican party is standing for anymore when you have the the likes of trump being the face of the party and has them rallying for the likes of Moore etc

    i would only call him a pedophile cause for some reason republicans don't care about the others things that should have disqualified him a LONG time ago

    i seriously don't understand the society the gop is fighting for anymore
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    Emotional arguments....seems to be the only thing you have lately.

    Ultimately people don't support a person's character but their policies. You've proven to do the same.

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