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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I said it already but it bears repeating. One party has been repeatedly dinged in court for specifically attempting to enact measures to make it harder for black Americans to vote. Til you can approach that with some good faith, I don't know how much traction you're going to get by shouting about immigration.

    How well has Rand Paul done inside his caucus advocating for criminal justice reform?
    Everyone should get to vote and any attempt to change that is disgusting. I'm saddened by the fact that minorities still don't understand that leftist ideology only hurts them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yes..because many employers offer health insurance. And if we kill the aca costs will go down.
    How do you figure that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Everyone should get to vote and any attempt to change that is disgusting. I'm saddened by the fact that minorities still don't understand that leftist ideology only hurts them.
    Please vote for the people who are trying to keep you from voting!

    Sounds like a winner to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Please vote for the people who are trying to keep you from voting!

    Sounds like a winner to me.
    Please vote for the people that import cheap labor that take your jobs. Congrats to you that this is a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Please vote for the people that import cheap labor that take your jobs. Congrats to you that this is a winner.
    Seems like basic participation in democracy could help settle that question, if indeed it needed settling. If you think you can form some kind of nationalist coalition including black Americans, you might want to start by expressing some interest in applying the franchise equally. For someone who claims to abhor identity politics, it seems like trying to engage black voters by stoking resentment against Latino immigrants is a questionable play, no?

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    I don't care what hue the worker is. I'd prefer that the worker is treated fairly and afforded the opportunity to have a say in his or her circumstances.

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    once we give the corporations more money they will hire black people! that's how this works right? they won't just pocket it or give it to their shareholders right? oh, they literally said they would? well golly! who could've seen that coming?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Seems like basic participation in democracy could help settle that question, if indeed it needed settling. If you think you can form some kind of nationalist coalition including black Americans, you might want to start by expressing some interest in applying the franchise equally. For someone who claims to abhor identity politics, it seems like trying to engage black voters by stoking resentment against Latino immigrants is a questionable play, no?
    Absurd that are you makin this an ethnic issue (blacks vs latinos). It's American vs non American end of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Young people change their worldview as they age.
    I never did and never will. I was a dem at 20, am at 40, and will be at 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    once we give the corporations more money they will hire black people! that's how this works right? they won't just pocket it or give it to their shareholders right? oh, they literally said they would? well golly! who could've seen that coming?!
    I guess you haven't been paying attention to the minority unemployment figures lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    I never did and never will. I was a dem at 20, am at 40, and will be at 60.
    Should have said some. Some are helpless.

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    This, oh yes, this.

    Ed Stetzer mentioned this issue in a recent NPR interview when he said, “If you change your view of ethics in order to support a candidate, that’s the definition of selling out and selling your soul.”


    Glad to call Ed a friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    I never did and never will. I was a dem at 20, am at 40, and will be at 60.

    Closed-minded? ;-)

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    Not at all. If anything I think for myself and don't believe in conservatism. The America I believe is a place for all as long as you abide by her laws. Under progressivism gives America the best chance to live up to her creed. Trump is a bump in the road that after we put him behind us we will move ever closer to that.

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    shauna Retweeted Mike Pence

    Never forget that a guy who won't have dinner alone with a woman backed a guy who shouldn't be left alone with teenage girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    Not at all. If anything I think for myself and don't believe in conservatism. The America I believe is a place for all as long as you abide by her laws. Under progressivism gives America the best chance to live up to her creed. Trump is a bump in the road that after we put him behind us we will move ever closer to that.

    I dunno, sounds like a lot of faith and pretty closed-minded to me. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    "They" aren't all the same.
    From Christianity Today

    No matter the outcome of today’s special election in Alabama for a coveted US Senate seat, there is already one loser: Christian faith. When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianity’s integrity is severely tarnished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Please vote for the people that import cheap labor that take your jobs. Congrats to you that this is a winner.
    A penny or two off your bill is more important to you than all people having health care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    A penny or two off your bill is more important to you than all people having health care?
    You don't get it. I'm not struggling for money. This is not about me. It's about the right decisions to stimulate growth and success. It doesn't matter if it's a liberal or a conservative in command. My profession is in demand and i do a good enough job where I have all I could ever need considering i had nothing growing up.

    We need jobs for americans. Plain and simple. It's the only way to fix the rot that has infected our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You don't get it. I'm not struggling for money. This is not about me. It's about the right decisions to stimulate growth and success. It doesn't matter if it's a liberal or a conservative in command. My profession is in demand and i do a good enough job where I have all I could ever need considering i had nothing growing up.

    We need jobs for americans. Plain and simple. It's the only way to fix the rot that has infected our society.
    You're right. I don't get you. I thought you were all about stopping the Muslim horde before it swamped us all.

    Jobs are nice. Health care provides a lot of jobs. Who's gonna pay for the care of the masses who will have no insurance when the ACA is gone? Both can and should be done in any decent society.
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