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    Braves Will Shop Julio Teheran At Winter Meetings, Per Report

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    About 2-3 years too late. Selling low seems like a bad idea. Teheran is a good candidate to rebound in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    About 2-3 years too late. Selling low seems like a bad idea. Teheran is a good candidate to rebound in 2018.
    So this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    About 2-3 years too late. Selling low seems like a bad idea. Teheran is a good candidate to rebound in 2018.
    Agree 100%

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    About 2 years too late. Julio should have been sent packing when we rebuilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    About 2-3 years too late. Selling low seems like a bad idea. Teheran is a good candidate to rebound in 2018.
    And then we hope to sell him for more gain next offseason? If he fails then we can offload him for truly nothing because he'll only have one year on contract remaining.

    Braves aren't in a great bargaining position. They should have sold low on him years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    About 2 years too late. Julio should have been sent packing when we rebuilt.
    But we didn’t. So don’t coppi down and trade him while his value is rock bottom. I would rather gamble on a rebound. His last year is an option right. So not a huge gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    And then we hope to sell him for more gain next offseason? If he fails then we can offload him for truly nothing because he'll only have one year on contract remaining.

    Braves aren't in a great bargaining position. They should have sold low on him years ago.
    The chances of him regaining his plus-plus control and being a 3 win pitcher are big enough that I would rather not see him bounce back for another team that got him for a FV 50 pitching prospect.

    Just because they screwed up by not selling high doesn’t mean they have to double down and compound the error by selling low. It’s time to stop chaining mistakes together into long winding cluster****s.

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    I think we should’ve traded him back in 2016 and I don’t agree trading him now at his lowest value, but I don’t t think AA cares about what Coppy did or didn’t do. He’s going to make whatever moves he wants.

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    Unbridled optimism in some quarters aside, I don't see this team as being a .500 team next season and so trading Teheran now just to trade him doesn't make a ton of sense. Toss him out there in 2018 and let him try to re-build some value in hopes of a higher return. I've always liked the guy, but I don't know what you could get for him now.

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    So how many years do you toss him out there to try and let him rebuild some value? He is what he is. He's a MOR guy.

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    We're also saying all this without knowing what's being offered. If two or more teams likewise value Teheran as a strong bound-back candidate, Anthopoulos might have himself a stew going.
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    I wish we would stop trying to trade him

    but whatever

    it's obvious through the years i have been a fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Unbridled optimism in some quarters aside, I don't see this team as being a .500 team next season and so trading Teheran now just to trade him doesn't make a ton of sense. Toss him out there in 2018 and let him try to re-build some value in hopes of a higher return. I've always liked the guy, but I don't know what you could get for him now.
    This. A lot of this. And I'm a borderline charter member of the JT fan club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    So how many years do you toss him out there to try and let him rebuild some value? He is what he is. He's a MOR guy.
    Do you know what they're getting in free agency? Do you think Folty can give us 180 innings and finally be an ace? How about Newk? Gohara? Sims? Blair? Wisler?

    No one is calling him an ace but he's at a low trade point and can and has rebounded before. I'll take him over anyone in our rotation AT THE MOMENT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    Do you know what they're getting in free agency? Do you think Folty can give us 180 innings and finally be an ace? How about Newk? Gohara? Sims? Blair? Wisler?

    No one is calling him an ace but he's at a low trade point and can and has rebounded before. I'll take him over anyone in our rotation AT THE MOMENT.
    Over gohara? I don’t know about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    Do you know what they're getting in free agency? Do you think Folty can give us 180 innings and finally be an ace? How about Newk? Gohara? Sims? Blair? Wisler?

    No one is calling him an ace but he's at a low trade point and can and has rebounded before. I'll take him over anyone in our rotation AT THE MOMENT.

    No. But we've broached this subject for a few years and this, "well, let's wait maybe he'll rebound" sentiment isn't new. It is conceivable that not only does he not rebuild value but that he continues to lose it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Over gohara? I don’t know about that
    I've always been a Teheran supporter but I'd take both Gohara/Newk long term over him. The other guys still have much to prove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The chances of him regaining his plus-plus control and being a 3 win pitcher are big enough that I would rather not see him bounce back for another team that got him for a FV 50 pitching prospect.

    Just because they screwed up by not selling high doesn’t mean they have to double down and compound the error by selling low. It’s time to stop chaining mistakes together into long winding cluster****s.
    I have already made double down into coppy down. Until his stench if off this org it will be used.
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