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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Corporate layoff announcements lowest since 1990.

    But they're still gonna happen, people. If the store doesn't make money, it's gotta go

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Corporate layoff announcements lowest since 1990.

    But they're still gonna happen, people. If the store doesn't make money, it's gotta go
    Yeah, a real shocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Corporate layoff announcements lowest since 1990.

    But they're still gonna happen, people. If the store doesn't make money, it's gotta go
    The effort to defend their terrible economic principles is real. After America enjoys this era of prosperity the stranglehold of communism that is taken hold with the youth of this country will be relieved and that is what makes the Marxists nervous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The effort to defend their terrible economic principles is real. After America enjoys this era of prosperity the stranglehold of communism that is taken hold with the youth of this country will be relieved and that is what makes the Marxists nervous.
    You're about 2 degrees from a parody account at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    You're about 2 degrees from a parody account at this point.
    Do you want to see studies where a growing population of the youth in this country wants a communistic style of economy?

    Its amusing that the left continues to scream CONSPIRACY. Social media banning conservatives. CONSPIRACY! The DNC/FBI involved in the Dossier. CONSPIRACY.

    How many more times are you allowed to cry wolf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Yeah, this is the tax reform bill.

    It isn't the tuition reform bill, or the healthcare reform bill (\fail). So I'm not really seeing where gripes about those matters about the tax reform bill can be validated.

    This is helping people. Is it a final solution for all facets of ones financial responsibilities? No. But lets call it what it is folks...a DAMN good start
    Just as a clarification, though, the bill repealed the individual mandate in the ACA. So it was a healthcare bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Corporate layoff announcements lowest since 1990.

    But they're still gonna happen, people. If the store doesn't make money, it's gotta go
    Because the profit-motive trumps all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Because the profit-motive trumps all.
    I'll tell ya what jp... Go out and hire 25 people to mow your lawn tomorrow. Whether or not that is profitable for you, you should do it out of the goodness of your heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'll tell ya what jp... Go out and hire 25 people to mow your lawn tomorrow. Whether or not that is profitable for you, you should do it out of the goodness of your heart
    Strange that countries that aren't interested in 'profit' fail and yet here America stands as a beacon of hope for the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'll tell ya what jp... Go out and hire 25 people to mow your lawn tomorrow. Whether or not that is profitable for you, you should do it out of the goodness of your heart
    I don't have a lawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Strange that countries that aren't interested in 'profit' fail and yet here America stands as a beacon of hope for the world.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I don't have a lawn.
    That shouldn't matter. It sounds like you think sams should have stayed open despite not having a need to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That shouldn't matter. It sounds like you think sams should have stayed open despite not having a need to do so.
    Of course they shouldn't—it'd be illogical under the logic of capitalism. That's why I think the fundamental logic by which our institutions are organized and ordered is the problem.

    Regardless of its sophistic, self-serving "state of nature" etiological myths, capitalism works in service of one thing: rendering any excess back to the owners of capital. Its teleology is sole and singular: profit. Consumers are means; goods and services are means; societies are means. The end is always the same: accruing maximum profits to ownership.

    That's why—as opposed to, say, violent uprising and dictatorship of the proletariat—I support nearer-term solutions like sovereign wealth funds, which at least make the collective constituency one of the principal owners of wealth within a society. And they work—in nations that haven't prioritized pure profit, but have nonetheless not "failed". Such solutions aren't panacea, but they're a lot better at protecting and promoting the full social constituency than our current naked rapaciousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That shouldn't matter. It sounds like you think sams should have stayed open despite not having a need to do so.
    And for the record, in terms of capitalistic merits, I think all Sam's Clubs should shutter their doors, because Costco fulfills the same functions but better, at pretty much every level of their respective corporations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    lol
    So en vogue to mock America. We are still the greatest nation to have ever existed and its because we have stayed away from economic beliefs that you hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Of course they shouldn't—it'd be illogical under the logic of capitalism. That's why I think the fundamental logic by which our institutions are organized and ordered is the problem.

    Regardless of its sophistic, self-serving "state of nature" etiological myths, capitalism works in service of one thing: rendering any excess back to the owners of capital. Its teleology is sole and singular: profit. Consumers are means; goods and services are means; societies are means. The end is always the same: accruing maximum profits to ownership.

    That's why—as opposed to, say, violent uprising and dictatorship of the proletariat—I support nearer-term solutions like sovereign wealth funds, which at least make the collective constituency one of the principal owners of wealth within a society. And they work—in nations that haven't prioritized pure profit, but have nonetheless not "failed". Such solutions aren't panacea, but they're a lot better at protecting and promoting the full social constituency than our current naked rapaciousness.
    There is no nation in the world that is as advanced and provides the opportunity to its citizens like America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Fiat to invest $1b in Michigan plant

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So en vogue to mock America. We are still the greatest nation to have ever existed and its because we have stayed away from economic beliefs that you hold.
    Not really—I'd say it's pretty two-thousand-and-late, actually. En vogue right now is the blind über-patriot boner you're so fond of brandishing. I'd worry about testicular torsion, reaching so hard to pat America on its collective back while fapping to its Great Glory.
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