Matt Kemp to Dodgers!

[Oklahomabrave]

https://twitter.com/joelsherman1/sta...16667894784001

[thethe]

WOWOWOW

[thethe]

This is crazy - two potential canddiates for either the rotation and bullpen.

Gonzalez already DFAed

[bravesfanforlife88]

Awesome news!

[clvclv]

HOLY *HIT!!!

[MadduxFanII]

Um.

OK.

[bravesfanforlife88]

braves get significant payroll savings in 2019. just in time to spend big on the FA class

[MadduxFanII]

And not to tell you your business, Okie, but the headline here is clearly "Charlie Culberson to the Braves."

[Heyward]

AA doing work.

AGon, Kazmir expire after the year. McCarthy has 1 year and an option left. Culberson is under control for 4 more years.

[salmagundy]

MLBTR is now reporting the deal--- 1:42 CST


In a stunning swap of big contracts, the Dodgers have traded first baseman Adrian Gonzalez, left-hander Scott Kazmir, right-hander Brandon McCarthy and infielder Charlie Culberson to the Braves in exchange for outfielder Matt Kemp. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic was the first to report the news.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Looks more likely that Acuna starts the year with the big team

[rico43]

Kazmir's injury last year was a hip, not his arm at all, so if he got a clean bill of health on the physical, he could become a regular starter straightaway.

[Heyward]

McCarthy was pretty good last year but injured a good bit also.

Julio, Newk, Gohara, McCarthy, and Folty is probably the rotation but things can change of course. Can throw in Kazmir too if he's healthy.

[nsacpi]

Crunching the numbers:

1) Gonzalez already DFAed, we eat 21.5M or almost 3 WAR at market rate

2) Kazmir at 16M. Probably finished. We eat 2 WAR at market rate

3) Brandon McCarthy. Expect him to be a 2 win pitcher in 2018 and 1 win pitcher in 2019. Expected surplus value about 1 WAR.

4) Culberson. Replacement level player.

So cumulatively these four have an expected negative surplus value of negative 4 WAR.

Kemp has an expected negative surplus value of negative 4 WAR.

So I would say its a wash. Any exchange where we get some cash makes it a win.

Additional thought, we basically moved deadweight money out 2019 into 2018. So this may move up our expected opening of our competitive window from 2020 to 2019. From the Dodgers perspective, it makes it easier to get below the luxury tax threshold this year (not sure if this is a priority of theirs).

Additional additional thought. I like the McCarty pickup and think it gives us a solid rotation for 2018.

This looks like a very good first big trade by AA. Maybe a great trade depending upon the cash changing hands.

[thethe]

Crunching the numbers:

1) Gonzalez already DFAed, we eat 21.5M or almost 3 WAR at market rate

2) Kazmir at 16M. Probably finished. We eat 2 WAR at market rate

3) Brandon McCarthy. Expect him to be a 2 win pitcher in 2018 and 1 win pitcher in 2019. Expected surplus value about 1 WAR.

4) Culberson. Replacement level player.

So cumulatively these four have an expected negative surplus value of negative 4 WAR.

Kemp has an expected negative surplus value of negative 4 WAR.

So I would say its a wash. Any exchange where we get some cash makes it a win.

Additional thought, we basically moved deadweight money out 2019 into 2018. So this may move up our expected opening of our competitive window from 2020 to 2019. From the Dodgers perspective, it makes it easier to get below the luxury tax threshold this year (not sure if this is a priority of theirs).

Additional additional thought. I like the McCarty pickup and think it gives us a solid rotation for 2018.

This looks like a very good first big trade by AA. Maybe a great trade depending upon the cash changing hands.

Do you think Adams can be a 2 WAR player fulltime?

[nsacpi]

Do you think Adams can be a 2 WAR player fulltime?

Lane Adams. No. Everything he did last year was due to BABIP.

[Garmel]

Nice to have a GM that knows Kemp is trash.

[BedellBrave]

Well so much for it being a quiet offseason!

[salmagundy]

This is crazy - two potential canddiates for either the rotation and bullpen.

Gonzalez already DFAed

Where does the report of Gonzalez being DFA'd come from?


Found it ---

Bowman and MLBTR up date

[clvclv]

Where does the report of Gonzalez being DFA'd come from?

Haven't seen the report, but XM also reporting he's already gone.