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Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Kiley said everyone mentioned in the article was a FV 50+, and the count is 137 (I think).
EL then said there may be a few guys who get bunped up to FV 50 when they finish the team by team lists, so that total will likely be 140+.
And you're right, Allard jumping from 101-140 to 75 means very little. That's why I want an objective definition from tehteh so we don't have to hear him brag about being right when Allard cracks the Top 100 in 4 months.
They also seem to have done a systematic downgrade of all pitching prospects to better reflect their inherent risk (and lower overall value) compared to hitters.
We definitely saw it with Wright and Soroka, and Allard likely got dinged for it too on top of his lackluster scouting reports.
Further, we see MLBPipeline with FV 55 guys all the way to 100, whereas FG only has 40-something FV 55+ guys. Accounting for this rating scale inflation from FG to MLB is a good thing to keep in mind.
Last edited by Enscheff; 02-06-2018 at 05:54 PM.
But pitching prospects are valuable...
I do wonder if this was done so they don't have two separate values for hitters and pitchers when their do their surplus update. Instead of ranking 55 FV hitters and pitchers differently they just downgrade the pitchers FV ranking.
That would almost line up...
For 2017:
FV 60 Pitcher = $34M
FV 55 Hitter = $38M
FV 55 Pitcher = $22M
FV 50 Hitter = $20M
FV 50 Pitcher = $14M
FV 45 Hitter = $11M
Simply docking each pitcher half a FV grade makes them line up almost perfectly. I think you may have figured out what they did this year.
Their logic for doing so is sound.
FG just posted their "FV 45 guys who are likely to jump to FV 50 and be Top 100 guys soon" article: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/here...pects-we-love/
Braves mentioned:
Starting Pitchers - None
Catchers - This group is mostly composed of bat-first, fringe catchers who don’t have such dominant profiles that you’re fine with them at first base if they can’t catch. If they can, on the other hand, they’ll be quite valuable.
William Contreras, Atlanta Braves
Brett Cumberland, Atlanta Braves - Cumberland has the best bat of those guys but also the most work to do behind the plate.
Corner Infielders - None
Middle Infielders - None
Solid Performers - None
Outfielders - None
Close BP Arms - None
Josh Graham, RHR, Atlanta Braves
A.J. Minter, LHR, Atlanta Braves - In the “ridiculous stuff” category
Utility - None
A few comments:
Nice to see some hope in the catcher department if those guys can ever figure out how to catch, but that's been the case all along.
The Minter comment is further proof of how bad the TC ranking was.
I'm a little surprised not to see Jean Carlos Encarnacion mentioned considering everyone is pimping him so loudly.
Last edited by Enscheff; 02-07-2018 at 12:34 PM.
Are any of the lost prospects in that list of 45 FV guys?