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    Mets Signing Frazier while Andropolus fiddles

    The do-nothing attitude of the Braves have now cost them Todd Frazier. Reported by Ken Rosenthal that he gets two years, $17 million from Mets pending physical.

    One of my closest friends (and biggest sports fans) says that this is the first spring since he was a kid that he gets absolutely to buzz about the Braves starting spring training. I am about there with him. This boring and no fun; I wish I felt they actually had a strategy besides A.A. taking his sweet time learning who's who in the farm system.'

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    I'm confused why so many people want to spend money on Frazier when camargos production won't be that much of a decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm confused why so many people want to spend money on Frazier when camargos production won't be that much of a decline.
    I’m hoping that Riley and Camargo both continue to improve this season

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    This isn't a surprise, Frazier obviously wanted to stay in NY all along. He might not have even considered us if we made a bigger offer and additional year.

    This means one less team for Nunez and I still hope we sign him.

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    I think it was pretty apparent Frazier wanted to stay in NY all things considered (assuming he wasn't getting a substantially larger offer somewhere else).

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    The fact the Braves could not or would not beat a 2/17 deal for Frazier should end all doubts that they have almost no money to spend in 2018 and are completely punting 2018.

    Frazier on a 2 year deal in no way blocks Riley in any realistic scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I think it was pretty apparent Frazier wanted to stay in NY all things considered (assuming he wasn't getting a substantially larger offer somewhere else).
    Yes, you could tell that in his interviews and reports from multiple outlets including some shared on MLBTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The fact the Braves could not or would not beat a 2/17 deal for Frazier should end all doubts that they have almost no money to spend in 2018 and are completely punting 2018.

    Frazier on a 2 year deal in no way blocks Riley in any realistic scenario.
    You could certainly be right and I think you've been proven to be right more than others but there are many different reasons why holding money in reserve going into the season makes a lot of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The fact the Braves could not or would not beat a 2/17 deal for Frazier should end all doubts that they have almost no money to spend in 2018 and are completely punting 2018.

    Frazier on a 2 year deal in no way blocks Riley in any realistic scenario.
    Or Frazier wanted to stay in NY and a 2/20 deal wasn't going to move the needle.

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    MLBTR: "New York held an obvious draw for Frazier, a New Jersey native who got a taste of playing near his home town last year with the Yankees. As Jon Heyman of Fan Rag notes on Twitter, that geographic preference seemingly played a role in the agreement that has now come together. It may have helped the Mets land a solid player at a reasonable price."

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    best part of this deal is getting to hear chip say “down goes frazier” 30+ times a year for the next two years

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    The do-nothing attitude of the Braves have now cost them Todd Frazier. Reported by Ken Rosenthal that he gets two years, $17 million from Mets pending physical.

    One of my closest friends (and biggest sports fans) says that this is the first spring since he was a kid that he gets absolutely to buzz about the Braves starting spring training. I am about there with him. This boring and no fun; I wish I felt they actually had a strategy besides A.A. taking his sweet time learning who's who in the farm system.'
    Braves have no money and are punting 2018. It's been obvious since the Kemp trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Braves have no money and are punting 2018. It's been obvious since the Kemp trade.
    Careful now, Carp doesn’t believe you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Braves have no money and are punting 2018. It's been obvious since the Kemp trade.
    Should have been punting 2018 since 2015.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Braves have no money and are punting 2018. It's been obvious since the Kemp trade.
    But how!?! How are we broke? We’ve been literally bandaiding this roster for a few seasons now. Major money on the books is Freeman, Ender, and Markakis...the rest are bargain guys...how could we possibly be broke?

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    @JonHeyman
    Frazier, toms river, nj, product, made clear he wanted to be in NY. gets his wish crosstown with mets. @Ken_Rosenthal 1st
    8:54 PM - Feb 5, 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsebe10 View Post
    But how!?! How are we broke? We’ve been literally bandaiding this roster for a few seasons now. Major money on the books is Freeman, Ender, and Markakis...the rest are bargain guys...how could we possibly be broke?
    Braves added like 28 million in salary for 2018 in the Kemp trade. They did this so they could clear Kemp's salary in 2019.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...cpGB0M/pubhtml

    Cots has the Braves at 116 million right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsebe10 View Post
    But how!?! How are we broke? We’ve been literally bandaiding this roster for a few seasons now. Major money on the books is Freeman, Ender, and Markakis...the rest are bargain guys...how could we possibly be broke?
    2.5 million in attendance with a terrible TV deal correlates to a payroll around $110M-$120M, even with the boosted revenue from The Battery. Folks around here love to try their hand at voodoo accounting to convince themselves the Braves have more to spend, but that’s the reality of the situation.

    If the Braves start drawing 2.8M+ they should enjoy enough of a revenue bump to support a payroll of $130M+. That jump in attendance isn’t happening until they start making noise in the playoff race.

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    He wanted to stay in NY and limited his market to 2 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    MLBTR: "New York held an obvious draw for Frazier, a New Jersey native who got a taste of playing near his home town last year with the Yankees. As Jon Heyman of Fan Rag notes on Twitter, that geographic preference seemingly played a role in the agreement that has now come together. It may have helped the Mets land a solid player at a reasonable price."
    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Careful now, Carp doesn’t believe you.
    Just gonna leave this here.

    You could be entirely right about the Braves. You are dead wrong about Frazier

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