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    So the Democrat won (maybe) in a +20 Trump district that also went for Romney and McCain. Worth noting that the district will cease to exist upon the court-ordered re-drawing of the PA congressional map.

    GOP CC spent upwards of $10M to lose a seat that should have been an easy hold. Trump did a rally there last week.

    I don't think the tax cuts are going to be a strong closing argument in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I don't think the tax cuts are going to be a strong closing argument in November.
    what, you are willing to sell out your ideals for a little more money?
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    That guy is pro life, pro guns, pro-tariffs and hates Nancy Pelosi. He’s more republican than Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    what, you are willing to sell out your ideals for a little more money?

    I would be willing to sell out my 'ideals' (whatever they are) for 30 pieces of silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Trump did a rally there last week.
    And brought a 6 point bump.

    Still an ominous sign for the GOP, even if Saccone ekes out the win after a recount.
    Last edited by Hawk; 03-14-2018 at 01:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    That guy is pro life, pro guns, pro-tariffs and hates Nancy Pelosi. He’s more republican than Democrat.
    In other words, he's a politician that knows his district.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I would be willing to sell out my 'ideals' (whatever they are) for 30 pieces of silver.
    that seems like a bad deal imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    That guy is pro life, pro guns, pro-tariffs and hates Nancy Pelosi. He’s more republican than Democrat.
    ah, i was curious how this would be spun

    he has the same stance as Joe Biden on abortion ftr which is pro choice by the view of the law (which most people are)

    he was pro obamacare
    pro union
    pro gun reform
    pro choice

    and against the gop tax bill


    but please, keep spinning that the 10 million the GOP spent, the vice president visit and then the president going up there and saying voting for him is a vote against his agenda was really just a republican vs republican and not a big deal in a district that was won by 20 points for Trump 18 months ago
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    ... and let me guess, anti-Tim Murphy.

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    Let's see how the guy votes. I have no problem with Ds as long as they don't vote the radical progressive SJW agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    And brought a 6 point bump.

    Still an ominous sign for the GOP, even if Saccone ekes out the win after a recount.
    I don't know about a six-point bump. The average over the last couple weeks of campaigning was Lamb +2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    In other words, he's a politician that knows his district.
    exactly. not every dem candidate has to be (or should be) super progressive. they won't win in areas like that. PA18 also doesn't seem enamored with trump, either, and he wasn't speaking to them anymore. they rejected his bs and are maybe seeing through him. they aren't clamoring for far-right culture/race wars or those progressive ideals. trump isn't helping them, so they went a different direction. dems need to keep running candidates like this in certain areas. this is great news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I don't think the tax cuts are going to be a strong closing argument in November.
    the GOP stopped advertising the tax cut in this district because it simply wasn't helping them. hopefully people are seeing through this type of thing.

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    but the republican won more counties! more land mass!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    I am genuinely curious exactly what policy changes you would like to see the GOP make. Do you mind elaborating?
    Policy is not really what I had in mind when I said I hoped the results of recent elections would act as a wakeup call. I was referring mostly to the quality of the candidates coming out of the primary process. This process gave us Trump in 2016 over a large field, any one of whom would have represented an improvement imo. Similarly, the nomination of Moore in Alabama. And going further back, I can think of Senate candidates in Indiana and Delaware, chosen over better alternatives, who were essentially unelectable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    That guy is pro life, pro guns, pro-tariffs and hates Nancy Pelosi. He’s more republican than Democrat.
    Doesn't really matter what he said to get elected, he may make some symbolic votes when his vote doesn't matter, but he'll be a vote in Pelosi's pocket when she needs it. They all either fall in line behind her or get forced out like Health Shuler was.

    Barring some huge break going the GOP's way the midterms are going to be a bloodbath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Policy is not really what I had in mind when I said I hoped the results of recent elections would act as a wakeup call. I was referring mostly to the quality of the candidates coming out of the primary process. This process gave us Trump in 2016 over a large field, any one of whom would have represented an improvement imo. Similarly, the nomination of Moore in Alabama. And going further back, I can think of Senate candidates in Indiana and Delaware, chosen over better alternatives, who were essentially unelectable.
    I must have misunderstood. It sounded like you were saying you were a long term Republican who is one no longer.

    I agree with you on the embarrassments that have won Senate nominations recently. More level headed Rs need to vote in the primaries to keep that kind of crazy out. As for Trump....I can't explain a world where a candidate as good as Romney loses one election cycle and Trump wins the next. There are going to be entire Poli Sci courses taught on 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    I must have misunderstood. It sounded like you were saying you were a long term Republican who is one no longer.
    I am currently politically homeless. It is not the worst thing in the world. I don't see myself becoming a Democrat. I will bide my time and see if the Republican party returns to its senses. If not, I think something new will come up.
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    I don't understand what politically homeless means
    Do you as a rule vote straight ticket ?

    Will you explain ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I don't understand what politically homeless means
    Do you as a rule vote straight ticket ?

    Will you explain ?
    I've never voted straight ticket. But I felt at home in the Republican party for most of my life. Events in 2016 led me to change my registration to independent.
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