"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
Teams agree to deals after submitting numbers all the time. The numbers are posted to MLBTR weeks in advance for crying out loud. They know the numbers.
The whole "file and trial" approach some teams take is a tactic used by ownership to systematically suppress wages by posing a deadline for a decision that is more expensive for the player to see pass than the team...as evidenced by what happened in Folty's case.
Considering JS was bed buddies with the league leadership, it is unsurprising the Braves take such a stance on labor relations.
Last edited by Enscheff; 02-14-2018 at 12:19 PM.
This is so minor. Pitch better Folty and all the money will be yours. He lost his arbitration so the Braves were right with their valuation. This will be a non issue once the season starts.
Coppy
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
The fact a team can call itself "file and trial" proves they can negotiate after numbers are submitted. The fact the numbers submitted by both sides are posted on MLBTR weeks in advance proves both sides know what those numbers are.
Imposing the "file and trial" mandate allows the team to weaken the player's overall bargaining position. It is much more costly for a player (both on a financial basis, and a personal basis, as shown in Folty's case) to attend his arb hearing than it is for a team to send a couple lawyers they already have on retainer. Therefore, the player is more inclined to concede his position before the file date than the team is.
It is nothing more than a systematic way to suppress labor wages. All over $100k. The Braves should be ashamed.
It's especially dumb to go to arbitration over $100K because the team probably spends at least half of that in prep time and misc. fees. That being said, file and trial is a legitimate strategy, and as we've been reminded many times, baseball is a business.
Folty truly personifies the sniveling bitch though. Go be with your baby and grow the **** up.
Last edited by Hawk; 02-14-2018 at 01:08 PM.
clvclv (02-14-2018)
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
He actually did say that he cared about the difference. He said, multiple times, that he felt he 'deserved' it.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
I don't have a strong opinion either way in this debate but keep in mind that the FO is not dealing with Folty, they're dealing with an agent. These are some of the hardest people to deal with and they're proud of that fact. If you back down with this agent once you're screwed in the future.
BedellBrave (02-17-2018), Knucksie (02-18-2018), Super (02-14-2018)
I don’t care what process was used. The fact is they used what was agreed upon by both sides and a decision was made. If Folty is still upset then that is on him. I have a feeling he won’t give a **** in a few months. If he pitches well he has a shot at a gauranteed contract that buys out his arb years. If he doesn’t then he will just do this again next year. It is a non story imo.
Coppy