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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Yeah, that's why I used loose quotes.

    Here: "[the nra has] tremendous influence [over SCOTUS]"
    It has in gun cases. Final point: McConnell's conduct in blocking Garland is in essence using the court as a political tool.

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    So we’ve gone from the court itself is a ‘clearly’ political tool (and I’m in fantasyland if I disagree) ... to the court is ‘in essence’ used as a political tool. Ok.

    And I’m not going to touch the completely ludicrous (not to mention unsubstantiated) notion that the NRA has influence over the court on gun cases.
    Last edited by Hawk; 02-22-2018 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    So we’ve gone from the court itself is a ‘clearly’ political tool (and I’m in fantasyland if I disagree) ... to the court is ‘in essence’ used as a political tool. Ok.

    And then I’m not going to touch the completely ludicrous (not to mention unsubstantiated) notion that the NRA has influence over the court on gun cases.
    The pro-Trump Supreme Court was instrumental in the Roe v Wade decision, thanks to the enormously successful lobbying efforts of the NRA and Russian interference.

    I think I hit all the highlights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    So we’ve gone from the court itself is a ‘clearly’ political tool (and I’m in fantasyland if I disagree) ... to the court is ‘in essence’ used as a political tool. Ok.

    And I’m not going to touch the completely ludicrous (not to mention unsubstantiated) notion that the NRA has influence over the court on gun cases.
    Ok tough guy. Pretend those statements have different meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The pro-Trump Supreme Court was instrumental in the Roe v Wade decision, thanks to the enormously successful lobbying efforts of the NRA and Russian interference.

    I think I hit all the highlights
    Yea that's what I said. Also I hate freedom and the government wants you dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    and the NRA wants you (if you are a child) dead.
    fixed it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    fixed it for you
    Thanks, I forgot that was the actual argument being made.

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    Looking forward to A.) small-government conservatives pushing for millions in training and arming teachers
    And B.) the arguments for arming students when some nut teacher snaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Ok tough guy. Pretend those statements have different meaning.
    Try explaining what you mean without using the phrase “political tool” ... because it’s just not working.

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    Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like it’s pretty germane to the topic at hand to know how the big, bad villain of the month, the NRA, is ‘tremendously influencing’ the Supreme Court. Because it’s so clearly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Looking forward to A.) small-government conservatives pushing for millions in training and arming teachers
    And B.) the arguments for arming students when some nut teacher snaps.
    A) I don't think this is the proposal.. not mine at least. Mine is, if a teacher is has a gun, let them have it on premises. I had several teachers in high school who had gun permits and would go shooting as hobbies. I would be absolutely comfortable with them having a gun in my class.

    B) What stops a nut teacher from snapping today? Oh riiiiiight... the "gun free zone" schools

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    A.) it is a proposal as I understand it.
    B.) Nothing does, which is part of the point. Neither will letting teachers carry weapons. It's amazing to me that people will argue let teachers carry their guns because it won't prevent them all but it might save some lives. Yet they don't apply that same reasoning to restrictions on the weapons themselves, ammunition, etc.

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    I'm personally in the no guns anywhere near campuses group, and I think the idea of teachers carrying is pretty heartbreaking.

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    A serious question that went unanswered up thread.

    Are there any instances of school shooting on campuses where guns are permitted? Or mass shootings at gun shows?

    Based on the logic of the left these would be slam dunk occurances but I can't find them happening

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    Still puzzling over the logical tangle that suggests that banning certain firearms is part of the solution, but that the organizations and individuals who've fought tooth and nail to re-legalize and maintain the legal status of said firearms are NOT part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Still puzzling over the logical tangle that suggests that banning certain firearms is part of the solution, but that the organizations and individuals who've fought tooth and nail to re-legalize and maintain the legal status of said firearms are NOT part of the problem.
    If I can find an instance of someone protecting themselves, their family, or their property with that weapon, would you then be willing concede that maybe the NRA is actually trying to protect that function of the weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    But I don't think I'll ever be convinced that the object of the murder is to blame more than the murderer. Like I said - the double standards from the left on this are endless. It seems to be isolated to guns... not alcohol or trucks for example when similar tragedies occur

    "I don't think I'll ever be convinced"
    If you can prove unequivocally that #guncontrolnow would have stopped this person from obtaining a weapon and killing people, I will be convinced

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If I can find an instance of someone protecting themselves, their family, or their property with that weapon, would you then be willing concede that maybe the NRA is actually trying to protect that function of the weapon?
    a fatal error has occurred

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