Gun Violence

[thethe]

Ok then. Let’s take this for a different approach. Why did you post the original graphic (post 1001)

[Tapate50]

Yes GA has a very likelihood of shootings. In certain areas

[nsacpi]

Yes GA has a very likelihood of shootings. In certain areas

Looks to me like most of the little rural counties in south Georgia are a deep shade of red.

[nsacpi]

Ok then. Let’s take this for a different approach. Why did you post the original graphic (post 1001)

cuz it's informative

[Jaw]

I do. Then it becomes more concentrated in the South and Appalachia. Not necessarily in high minority areas. The poor white areas in places like eastern Kentucky, West Virginia, the Ozarks have very high homicide rates. It is by and large red states that have very high rates of both homicides and suicides. Also deaths to alcohol and drug abuse. "Deaths of despair" is the term that has been used. Hopefully, one of y'all can chime in at this point on how folks dying this way need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and take some personal responsibility for their well-being.

It absolutely is not concentrated in Appalachia based on that map. It's concentrated in the lowland and palmetto areas.

I've avoided bringing race into this because I think it's generally unproductive. We aren't going to make gun policy race based (well maybe CRT will but that's okay as long as it screws whitey) and the inclusion of race generally gives enemies of the Bill of Rights an easy way to turn the board over when they're losing. But since it's already been brought up and you've been implying that a lot of us are racists anyway, I would be interested in seeing that breakdown.

[Tapate50]

Yes, that’s the consensus here. Rural areas are a bloodbath, and Atlanta proper is perfectly normal


Clown map bro

[nsacpi]

Yes, that’s the consensus here. Rural areas are a bloodbath, and Atlanta proper is perfectly normal


Clown map bro

the data speak for themselves...even some of the lilly white mountain counties that blacks are afraid to live in way north in the corner where Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina meet are bright red

[nsacpi]

It absolutely is not concentrated in Appalachia based on that map. It's concentrated in the lowland and palmetto areas.

I've avoided bringing race into this because I think it's generally unproductive. We aren't going to make gun policy race based (well maybe CRT will but that's okay as long as it screws whitey) and the inclusion of race generally gives enemies of the Bill of Rights an easy way to turn the board over when they're losing. But since it's already been brought up and you've been implying that a lot of us are racists anyway, I would be interested in seeing that breakdown.

i see a lot of deep red in the Ozarks and the border areas along the border of Kentucky and West Virginia...but your knowledge of the geography is better than mine...i can see your point about the lowland and palmetto areas...it would be nice if the map had state lines

[thethe]

cuz it's informative

How was it informative at that point in the threads trajectory?

[nsacpi]

How was it informative at that point in the threads trajectory?

To me the single most interesting data point in the two maps of state data I shared is Nebraska. Similar to its neighbors in many ways. But has both the lowest gun ownership rate in that part of the country and the lowest rate of gun deaths. Go Huskers!! An oasis of relative sanity!

[Jaw]

It's crazy how you can pick out places on that map without it having any names, just by hotspots. Miami, Jacksonville, Savannah, Wilmington, then the I-95 line from Savannah to Raleigh, I-20 and I-55. And then you can trace Appalachia by looking at the green band in between all of that

[nsacpi]

It's crazy how you can pick out places on that map without it having any names, just by hotspots. Miami, Jacksonville, Savannah, Wilmington, then the I-95 line from Savannah to Raleigh, I-20 and I-55. And then you can trace Appalachia by looking at the green band in between all of that

Am I right in seeing quite a big of darker red in Eastern Kentucky. What's up with that.

[Tapate50]

the data speak for themselves...even some of the lilly white mountain counties that blacks are afraid to live in way north in the corner where Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina meet are bright red

Uhhhhh, what

[thethe]

To me the single most interesting data point in the two maps of state data I shared is Nebraska. Similar to its neighbors in many ways. But has both the lowest gun ownership rate in that part of the country and the lowest rate of gun deaths. Go Huskers!! An oasis of relative sanity!

And that was informative at that point in the conversation?

[nsacpi]

And that was informative at that point in the conversation?

is this thread about gun violence?

i mean you are free to post as you wish

why are you trying to tell me what i should and shouldnt be posting

[thethe]

Because we all know you posted that graphic as a counter to the narrative that the democrat controlled city contain the majority of the crime and violence. And again you were wrong.

We all saw it. Just making it known.

[nsacpi]

A little dated, but this article has a discussion of trends in crime in rural areas. It aint a pretty picture. Deaths of despair. Rising crime. The opioid epidemic.

https://www.governing.com/archive/go...an-cities.html

[nsacpi]

Because we all know you posted that graphic as a counter to the narrative that the democrat controlled city contain the majority of the crime and violence. And again you were wrong.

We all saw it. Just making it known.

Oh yeah. It definitely ran counter to a certain narrative. If that is your point, guilty as charged.

[Jaw]

I'm bad at this stuff, but here's the map with a transparent overlay of a city map from school.

GunViolence.jpg

[Jaw]

Am I right in seeing quite a big of darker red in Eastern Kentucky. What's up with that.

Harlan county and a couple of counties around it.

Harlan was made famous by the TV series Justified, where Timothy Olyphant stars as a US Marshal. Great show that at least scratched the surface of the problems in that area with opioids, meth, marijuana, and the worst poverty to be found anywhere in the US.