The New York Times
Verified account @nytimes
Bank of America will no longer lend money to manufacturers of firearms
like the AR-15, which has been used in multiple mass shootings
The New York Times
Verified account @nytimes
Bank of America will no longer lend money to manufacturers of firearms
like the AR-15, which has been used in multiple mass shootings
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
I support Dick's Sporting Goods position on weaponry.
What think you ?
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Waffle house shooter killed 4
MAGA hat
AR-15
Good guy without a gun
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the shooter is said to be mentally ill
Duh
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/04/2...mpression=true
Here's a nice little analysis done to prove what many already know. Take away guns and more crime will happen.
But see your issue here is the use of data... The left cannot compute
My question for our leftist friends is what do you make of this data? Do you care? Do you not believe it? Do you believe it but still think the random shooting should take away 2.5m Americans right to defend themselves annually?The final adjusted prevalence of 1.24% therefore implies that in an average year during 1996–1998, 2.46 million U.S. adults used a gun for self-defense. This estimate, based on an enormous sample of 12,870 cases (unweighted) in a nationally representative sample, strongly confirms the 2.5 million past-12-months estimate obtained Kleck and Gertz (1995)….CDC’s results, then, imply that guns were used defensively by victims about 3.6 times as often as they were used offensively by criminals.
Just curious.
I suspect there won't be much dialogue on this though
Probably not
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
You've never been one to be willing or able to discuss facts
I meant the other smarter folks on the board
Guns prevent more crimes then they cause. Good luck being an attractive woman in a world without guns. Heck, good luck being any women in a world without guns.
This is a recurring theme with you now Julio.
You are skeptical at any argument up front because it doesn't jive with your personal beliefs. You mock the person proposing the argument saying you need to see some data or facts. Those facts and/or data is shown and yet you still dismiss.
It should be common sense that firearms deter violence.
Natural Immunity Croc
My opinion of Kleck's 1993 data is the same as it has always been, given the obvious problems with the research. I am not sure what to make of the CDC information other than that it's based on a bigger sample (good) but I don't know if the questioning methodology is any more valid. Keck MAY have a point in his contention for undercounting--'cause it's really hard to know--but the fact is that his numbers don't align with extrapolated figures of certain types of crimes committed, ownership rates in certain demographics, etc. So people, intentionally or not, appear to be misreporting either the timing or the facts of their "defensive gun uses."
Counting these incidents is difficult, and I think a relatively shallow self-reporting survey is likely to overstate them, whereas methodology purely depending on documentation of crimes, etc., is going to understate them.
Last edited by Julio3000; 04-23-2018 at 08:39 AM.
How many crimes have been stopped by a citizen with an AR-15 or similar weapon ?
I see only a calls (from people that actually have a say in the matter) for background checks and waiting periods being suggested for handguns or hunting rifles/shotguns
Last edited by 57Brave; 04-23-2018 at 08:45 AM.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Last edited by Julio3000; 04-23-2018 at 08:52 AM.
You guys can make an argument for gun ownership that's predicated on individual rights, and that's fine. But you can't simultaneously claim that you want to support that position with data that indicates that it correlates with a safer society, because a fairly robust body of research performed over decades suggests the opposite. I'm not sure I understand the desire to have a data-driven discussion that ignores the wealth of available data.
how did that guy at the waffle house stop a guy with a gun if he didn't have a gun?
and how does a cop ever get killed if a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun?
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