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    Oh man

    He thinks I’m dumb. My feelings are hurt
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Cops shouldn't be investigating someone for going to a gun range thats for damn sure.
    The guy who went to a range with a cut out of teenager who survived a mass shooting and shot at said target should be investigated

    So

    I disagree that they shouldn’t be looked at
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Oh man

    He thinks I’m dumb. My feelings are hurt
    You made a dumb point then couldn't back it up. Ho hum

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    The guy who went to a range with a cut out of teenager who survived a mass shooting and shot at said target should be investigated

    So

    I disagree that they shouldn’t be looked at

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Hawk, you can't fix stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    you don't agree that that person should maybe be looked at to be unstable and might should be looked at as a gun owner?

    weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Hawk, you can't fix stupidity.
    of course you can

    it's usually very slow moving but education has been progressing for the last couple thousands of years
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    The guy who went to a range with a cut out of teenager who survived a mass shooting and shot at said target should be investigated

    So

    I disagree that they shouldn’t be looked at
    unless of course they carry a Koran or trying to sell cigarettes
    why do you hate America ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    you don't agree that that person should maybe be looked at to be unstable and might should be looked at as a gun owner?

    weird
    Where did you get he was shooting at cutouts of student survivors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    you don't agree that that person should maybe be looked at to be unstable and might should be looked at as a gun owner?

    weird
    Let me get this straight: you don’t believe that violent video games/a violent entertainment culture might should be “looked at” ... but you want to restrict paper targets at gun ranges?

    I think we all agree that using real depictions of people as targets is tasteless, but hella slippery slope advocating that we should investigate those individuals.
    Last edited by Hawk; 04-24-2018 at 02:12 PM.

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    A thing that came out of 9/11 was obvious signs there was something fishy with the "terrorists" - a lack of "connecting the dots"
    To my mind and I am sure you disagree, just for sport, a red flag is being waved by carrying a picture of a person into a gun range and is a click or two above "tasteless"

    But hey, that's just me
    Last edited by 57Brave; 04-24-2018 at 02:10 PM.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    By that logic, a person who uses the human body cutout while at a shooting range is homicidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    By that logic, a person who uses the human body cutout while at a shooting range is homicidal.
    It seems like some folks are trying to have it both ways here. On one hand, there are complaints that law enforcement has failed to intervene earlier with various folks who've subsequently proved to be murderers. On the other hand, such intervention is considered to be an unlawful infringement of civil liberties. I'm not advocating for a particular position, just pointing out the tension, as I did earlier in the thread.

    Seems to me that if you think the onus is on societal forces to head off these incidents before they happen, you'd be open to a potentially burdensome amount of scrutiny towards people who are publically, vocally advocating shooting people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It seems like some folks are trying to have it both ways here. On one hand, there are complaints that law enforcement has failed to intervene earlier with various folks who've subsequently proved to be murderers. On the other hand, such intervention is considered to be an unlawful infringement of civil liberties. I'm not advocating for a particular position, just pointing out the tension, as I did earlier in the thread.

    Seems to me that if you think the onus is on societal forces to head off these incidents before they happen, you'd be open to a potentially burdensome amount of scrutiny towards people who are publically, vocally advocating shooting people.
    23 tips to police and FBI about a kid threatening to kills students = kid legally going to gun range

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    23 tips to police and FBI about a kid threatening to kills students = kid legally going to gun range

    /Tdsjulio
    Just an absurd comparison.
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    when you vacation you often remember the rainy days more so than a relaxing day in the sun.

    It was a very apt comparison.

    Like terrorist attacks, law enforcement seldom beats their chest over stopping a crime before it happens
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    23 tips to police and FBI about a kid threatening to kills students = kid legally going to gun range

    /Tdsjulio
    So you do think that local law enforcement or the Feds should investigate people, to the point of confiscating their guns, based on tips or social media posts? Illuminate me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    23 tips to police and FBI about a kid threatening to kills students = kid legally going to gun range

    /Tdsjulio
    Haha, I notice that your going ad hominem on me correlates to when you holler that something is unconstitutional and I cite case law that shows the opposite, etc ad nauseam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Haha, I notice that your going ad hominem on me correlates to when you holler that something is unconstitutional and I cite case law that shows the opposite, etc ad nauseam.
    What?

    What did I holler was unconstitutional?

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