Gun Violence

[thewupk]

What's your take on 3d printed guns? Doesn't really help.to ban guns if people can make them at home. Might not be easily accessible now but it will gain in popularity.

Yup. It's easy to make unregistered (not that it really matters) handguns these days.

[Jaw]

I would like to see someone take a Moneyball approach to this. Get some hard stats. Identify every instance of gun violence, then break it down by age, gender, race, education level, number of parents, type of household, religion, income level, employment status, warning signs, criminal history, and anything else that smart people can come up with, then use that information to diagnose the problem and start considering solutions.

What troubles me is that the federal government does this type of analysis in lots of other areas, so I suspect they are actively choosing not to do it here.

[goldfly]

I would like to see someone take a Moneyball approach to this. Get some hard stats. Identify every instance of gun violence, then break it down by age, gender, race, education level, number of parents, type of household, religion, income level, employment status, warning signs, criminal history, and anything else that smart people can come up with, then use that information to diagnose the problem and start considering solutions.

What troubles me is that the federal government does this type of analysis in lots of other areas, so I suspect they are actively choosing not to do it here.

i am seriously down to ban gun ownership with harsh as **** penalties for those that get caught with one if they are men who are domestic abusers

there is a clear pattern there

and **** those pieces of **** anyway


past that, i'm always down for more intel

and it wouldn't be hard to pull that together since we have a long list of mass killings and gun deaths in this country cause we literately don't do anything to try to stop it and we all live everyday with a real life game of craps in hoping that today isn't the day we find ourselves in the wrong place at the wrong time and get shot

[Oklahomahawk]

It would seem to me that a good and relatively non-partisan start would be stricter (as long as they were well written, clear, and reasonable) background checks for anyone buying a firearm or any kind?

[Hawk]

Yup. It's easy to make unregistered (not that it really matters) handguns these days.

This thread is reserved for butt****ing the NRA hobbyhorse.

[Julio3000]

This thread is reserved for butt****ing the NRA hobbyhorse.

Jaw posed a worthwhile question about federal study of gun violence. Turns out there's quite relevant information on the topic. Congressional Rs and the NRA are central to that discussion. Sorry that doesn't fit your weird procrustean standards here.

I mean, I agree with you about the broader issue of school shootings being about more than guns. And I agree that the glorification of violence in entertainment and media play some kind of role, though one that's hard to quantify, and maybe less so than other factors. I'd further add that any honest discussion on that score would have to include our collective national glorification of war and fetishization of the military. I'm amenable to any broader discussion here--in the other thread I was soliciting opinions and ideas about non-gun-related ways to mitigate such incidents. For you to take a very germane and rather rhetorically modest point about the NRA and boil it down to that is disrespectful to the conversation and pretty lame, besides.

It's fair to say that the specific issue of mass shootings is "not just about guns." It's not. But the dilemma of American gun violence is intertwined with our dysfunctional gun culture. It isn't just about guns, but it is about guns. The NRA is a knee-jerk boogeyman, but they're also a legitimate bad actor here, and should be subject to criticism where it's due. They effectively control the discourse on the gun issue in one party. You seem to think it's small-minded to point this out.