Economics Thread

[sturg33]

I'm curious where the electrical capacity for all of these electric cars is going to come from. Will we ban something that currently uses a large amount of electricity, pretty much meaning indoor air conditioning, or just allow the price to go so high that it's economically unrealistic for >60% of the country?

Will we begin mining for lithium domestically, or continue to outsource the ecological effects of that to third world countries?

It ain't gonna reduce carbon emissions, thats for sure

[nsacpi]

I'm curious where the electrical capacity for all of these electric cars is going to come from. Will we ban something that currently uses a large amount of electricity, pretty much meaning indoor air conditioning, or just allow the price to go so high that it's economically unrealistic for >60% of the country?

Will we begin mining for lithium domestically, or continue to outsource the ecological effects of that to third world countries?

wind, solar, nuclear...the path forward is there...the left needs to set aside its phobia about nuclear and the right its ideological opposition to progress

[Jaw]

I'm all for cleaner energy. I also see a freight train coming at the lower and middle class in the form of skyrocketing energy costs, while the affluent white liberals pushing all this tell us how we all need to sacrifice.

[nsacpi]

I'm all for cleaner energy. I also see a freight train coming at the lower and middle class in the form of skyrocketing energy costs, while the affluent white liberals pushing all this tell us how we all need to sacrifice.

i see a bright future for pedicabs...an industry that will provide good clean energy jobs

the future is here

[striker42]

I'm all for cleaner energy. I also see a freight train coming at the lower and middle class in the form of skyrocketing energy costs, while the affluent white liberals pushing all this tell us how we all need to sacrifice.

If electricity rates skyrocket, demand for electric vehicles will be capped. Companies making promises to go all electric will have to backpedal blaming an inadequate electrical grid. I'm not putting too much stock in aspirational promises by car manufacturers.

[nsacpi]

backpedal

glad to see we have another supporter of the pedicab industry

[57Brave]

If electricity rates skyrocket, demand for electric vehicles will be capped. Companies making promises to go all electric will have to backpedal blaming an inadequate electrical grid. I'm not putting too much stock in aspirational promises by car manufacturers.

with an energy grid designed in the 1930's, you have a point.

[57Brave]

If electricity rates skyrocket, demand for electric vehicles will be capped. Companies making promises to go all electric will have to backpedal blaming an inadequate electrical grid. I'm not putting too much stock in aspirational promises by car manufacturers.

EJ Dionne
@EJDionne
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Delivering a major infrastructure plan would show that progressive economics, not Trumpist nationalism, offers an “approach to rebuilding the country in a way that lifts the fortunes of workers and promotes the common good.”
V-insightful
@ThePlumLineGS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...mbat-trumpism/

which puts the ball squarely in (D) court. Let's see what they can do with it ????

we have to get beyond political discourse of owning the libs and power for powers sake

[Krgrecw]

If electricity rates skyrocket, demand for electric vehicles will be capped. Companies making promises to go all electric will have to backpedal blaming an inadequate electrical grid. I'm not putting too much stock in aspirational promises by car manufacturers.

Technology changes fast. I have the upmost faith that once the electric cars wars start up, Tesla and Apple will have batteries that last for 1000’s of miles.

[thethe]

Technology changes fast. I have the upmost faith that once the electric cars wars start up, Tesla and Apple will have batteries that last for 1000’s of miles.

People don’t have faith in technological advances. That’s why I think the panic over climate change is foolish. We will have CO2 filters in 20 years that bring will erase climate change from everyone’s lexicon.

[Jaw]

This isn't a large enough tax increase, but I support Senator Warren's Ulta-Millionaire Tax Act as a positive first step. I think adding a 100% tax on all PAC donations is also in order.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s?srnd=premium

[striker42]

EJ Dionne
@EJDionne
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5m
Delivering a major infrastructure plan would show that progressive economics, not Trumpist nationalism, offers an “approach to rebuilding the country in a way that lifts the fortunes of workers and promotes the common good.”
V-insightful
@ThePlumLineGS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...mbat-trumpism/

which puts the ball squarely in (D) court. Let's see what they can do with it ????

we have to get beyond political discourse of owning the libs and power for powers sake

Infrastructure shouldn't be partisan. Investing in infrastructure intelligently will result in more revenue in the long run than it costs.

The problem is what infrastructure to invest in. It usually just ends up being pet projects.

What we need are more arterial roads in major cities, bridges over bodies of water that impede movement (Chesapeake Bay I'm looking at you), overhauling the power grid, improving reservoirs, etc.

I saw multiple bike lanes built with the last infrastructure bill. It was ridiculous.

[57Brave]

multiple bike lanes are a thing, what is the problem there ?
In our city they are very functional where many people bike to and from work and use them on weekends for recreation
My fear is we allow our selves under the guise of responsible spending to wind up living in 1960's Soviet bloc world where only basic function is funded

and we agree it should be non partisan, but everybody got an idea
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If you and I were crafting an infrastructure bill of the ho hum bridges and access roads etc and I was steadfast on bike lanes, what would be your counter offer?

Of course there would be tax increases to fund
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My infrastructure bill would also contain art on city walls , gardens in public areas and other quality of life expenditures
Key there is quality of life. It does say after all, Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Nothing about fiscal responsibility

[sturg33]

This isn't a large enough tax increase, but I support Senator Warren's Ulta-Millionaire Tax Act as a positive first step. I think adding a 100% tax on all PAC donations is also in order.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s?srnd=premium

The dems are passing a relief bill that is 1,000% of Jeff Bezos entire net worth,and that is resulting in $1,400 for adults who make less than $80k.

But somehow unconstitutionally raising taxes on a few billionaires is gonna make the government efficient and make a difference for anyone?

[sturg33]

[Oklahomahawk]

Infrastructure shouldn't be partisan. Investing in infrastructure intelligently will result in more revenue in the long run than it costs.

The problem is what infrastructure to invest in. It usually just ends up being pet projects.

What we need are more arterial roads in major cities, bridges over bodies of water that impede movement (Chesapeake Bay I'm looking at you), overhauling the power grid, improving reservoirs, etc.

I saw multiple bike lanes built with the last infrastructure bill. It was ridiculous.

One of my biggest gripes with the Obama administration (especially the first one) was that I wanted him to put the Pickens Plan into effect or at least something similar to it. Use our natural resources, oil, natural gas, wind, and solar, depending on which part of the country we're talking about, while we work on something better, something more sustainable. Sadly we did neither and we continue to let the oil companies, Wall Street and a few other big money conglomerates sport-pfark us daily while we get absolutely no closer to being able to take care of ourselves.

[thethe]

One of my biggest gripes with the Obama administration (especially the first one) was that I wanted him to put the Pickens Plan into effect or at least something similar to it. Use our natural resources, oil, natural gas, wind, and solar, depending on which part of the country we're talking about, while we work on something better, something more sustainable. Sadly we did neither and we continue to let the oil companies, Wall Street and a few other big money conglomerates sport-pfark us daily while we get absolutely no closer to being able to take care of ourselves.

End almost all overseas spending. Close the border. Take care of Americans. Rebuild the country.

[Oklahomahawk]

End almost all overseas spending. Close the border. Take care of Americans. Rebuild the country.

Yeah, except your friends only want to do certain parts of that. They just tell you the rest so you'll believe them. If you were to put them to the test you'd be able to see through them.

[thethe]

Yeah, except your friends only want to do certain parts of that. They just tell you the rest so you'll believe them. If you were to put them to the test you'd be able to see through them.

I’m well aware that my ideology differentiates from lots of republicans. I’m very comfortable with that.

[thethe]

Gas prices skyrocketing

Market tanking

But he tweeted mean things!!