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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How many players at 17 years of age performed so well at the appy league level? Anyone care to pull up some comparisons for players and juxtapose it to what Albies/Acuna did?
    You tell us since you think it's special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Literally back to back posts.
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    New comparison for Cristian Pache: Garry Maddox, AKA The Secretary of Defense.

    Maddox was a 9-time Gold Glove winner for the Phillies who would hit around 14-15 bombs and flirt with .300.

    He was a 5-6 WAR player at his peak.

    I feel very good about this comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    You tell us since you think it's special.
    And that’s just the first layer of non-sense; because, even if the numbers of Acuña and Albies (and Pache somehow? even though he didn’t hit stateside ball until 2016, after the rebuild was well under way ...) in the Appalachian League were so extraordinarily unprecedented as to portend near-certain superstardom, then you still have to argue that I was both (i) a good idea and (ii) the actual idea to plan the entire rebuilding strategy around those two (or somehow three?) teenage prospects, which sounds like a swell strategy for an NBA roster, but is ludicrous on its own merits for an MLB team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    New comparison for Cristian Pache: Garry Maddox, AKA The Secretary of Defense.

    Maddox was a 9-time Gold Glove winner for the Phillies who would hit around 14-15 bombs and flirt with .300.

    He was a 5-6 WAR player at his peak.

    I feel very good about this comparison.
    LOL, I'm sure you are Taylor.

    A 5-6 WAR player would have everyone doing back flips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    LOL, I'm sure you are Taylor.

    A 5-6 WAR player would have everyone doing back flips.
    You better get in position.

    Pache is going to be the Jayne Mansfield to Ronald Acuna's Marilyn Monroe.

    What an outfield with which we are going to be blessed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    You better get in position.

    Pache is going to be the Jayne Mansfield to Ronald Acuna's Marilyn Monroe.

    What an outfield with which we are going to be blessed!
    Sometimes I think Taylor is a fake account created just to make our very own Sue Heck appear to be a rational fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    You better get in position.

    Pache is going to be the Jayne Mansfield to Ronald Acuna's Marilyn Monroe.

    What an outfield with which we are going to be blessed!
    Who gets to be Sophia Loren?

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    It's still luck if Riley and Pache pan out as quality role guys or higher for a winning club. Position player prospects work more than pitching but not everyone is supposed to work out even if they had X and X production in a lower league.

    What's crazy is I think it's not improbable, even taking a more reasonable outlook. It doesn't look like anybody is busting yet, even if some guys aren't stars. The way things are going, it looks perfectly reasonable for a guy like Riley to come up and be a .250/.330 type bat with great power. And on the other hand in 2020, it looks perfectly reasonable that Pache would come up and at least be an average hitter with star caliber defense.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Pache 1-2 with a BB vs Sixto Sanchez.

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    Pretty good article on Pache.

    “He can go to the big leagues now and be a Gold Glover in center field," Salazar said. "He's got great instincts in the outfield. He's got tremendous speed, and he's got a really good arm."

    https://www.milb.com/milb/news/fsl-n...icle_277674080

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    EL OH EL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    EL OH EL
    For what it's worth, I'm encouraged with what I've seen from Pache. If anybody is expecting Acuña 2.0, they'll be disappointed. I'm just looking for any reason to think he can hit at a Major League level. If so, he's likely to be an impressive player given his defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    EL OH EL
    With the new ball, anyone who can make consistent contact is now a power hitter.
    -Enscheff quotation from another thread

    Pache has never hit below .281 (currently at .283) and his ISO has doubled this year at 19 years old in A+ ball. The big question with Pache has always been "power"

    I may have actually damned faint praise upon Pache when I deemed him The Dominican Garry Maddox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    -Enscheff quotation from another thread

    Pache has never hit below .281 (currently at .283) and his ISO has doubled this year at 19 years old in A+ ball. The big question with Pache has always been "power"

    I may have actually damned faint praise upon Pache when I deemed him The Dominican Garry Maddox.
    Maybe, but I've seen him more than I saw Albies at a young age and I can tell you, he will make us all appreciate defense. He's that good. Secondly, his alter or tinker with his swing has looked great. Decent lift with continual gap power is huge. If he hits you 10 homers he's more than legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    For what it's worth, I'm encouraged with what I've seen from Pache. If anybody is expecting Acuña 2.0, they'll be disappointed. I'm just looking for any reason to think he can hit at a Major League level. If so, he's likely to be an impressive player given his defense.
    Pache is a good prospect.

    I’m mocking Taylor’s attempt at taking tehteh’s tired act of relentlessly pimping every single Braves prospect and turning the dial up to 11.

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