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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    And Acuna started 0-14 - your point was about people bailing on him because of a very few ABs, no? Why is a handful from Tucker any different? How many of those balls were hard hit? Several. Just as importantly, how many other players have 0-9 or 0-14 stretches before you choose to bail on them?
    It was a few ABs to start the year that gave people the idea that Tucker should hold Acuna down. Neither should hold any weight. It's Acuna's position and the only reason he's not there now is to control that extra year. Once that is done he should be up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    And Acuna started 0-14 - your point was about people bailing on him because of a very few ABs, no? Why is a handful from Tucker any different? How many of those balls were hard hit? Several. Just as importantly, how many other players have 0-9 or 0-14 stretches before you choose to bail on them? Is Acuna the ONLY player allowed to go 3 games without a hit? That's an awfully high bar you're setting there. Trout had an 0-11 stretch April 7th through 9th for crying out loud.
    We now have a full season's worth of data on Tucker at the MLB level. And it ain't good.

    No decision on Acuna was ever going to be influenced by what Preston Tucker was doing. That's insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    And Acuna started 0-14 - your point was about people bailing on him because of a very few ABs, no? Why is a handful from Tucker any different? How many of those balls were hard hit? Several. Just as importantly, how many other players have 0-9 or 0-14 stretches before you choose to bail on them? Is Acuna the ONLY player allowed to go 3 games without a hit? That's an awfully high bar you're setting there. Trout had an 0-11 stretch April 7th through 9th for crying out loud.
    Let's be sure we're are clear so everyone knows just how monumentally dumb this comment is (as are all your comments you don't steal from others)...

    Acuna is the best prospect in baseball who is being held down for an extra year of control at the age of 20.

    Tucker is already 27 (almost 28) and is a marginal corner OFer who likely fits in a bench role.

    So yes, we will give Acuna much more leeway than we give Tucker when decide who should be getting playing time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    And Acuna started 0-14 - your point was about people bailing on him because of a very few ABs, no? Why is a handful from Tucker any different? How many of those balls were hard hit? Several. Just as importantly, how many other players have 0-9 or 0-14 stretches before you choose to bail on them? Is Acuna the ONLY player allowed to go 3 games without a hit? That's an awfully high bar you're setting there. Trout had an 0-11 stretch April 7th through 9th for crying out loud.
    Teh Lulz.

    That's kind of all I have. Defending Tucker. A 27 year old who came into this season with under .500. Someone who won't have 700 PA before turning 28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    It was a few ABs to start the year that gave people the idea that Tucker should hold Acuna down. Neither should hold any weight. It's Acuna's position and the only reason he's not there now is to control that extra year. Once that is done he should be up.
    I wouldn’t bring him up until he starts hitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I wouldn’t bring him up until he starts hitting.
    He hit all ST. 3 games in AAA mean nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    He hit all ST. 3 games in AAA mean nothing.
    Good god, who cares about spring training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I wouldn’t bring him up until he starts hitting.
    Steve Hummer of the AJC agrees with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    He hit all ST. 3 games in AAA mean nothing.
    They mean about the same amount as three April games at the MLB level, no???

    No one's arguing that Acuna has one spot at some point for God's sake. He's 2-19 at Gwinnett after tonight - what exactly is the rush???

    All you folks have constantly screamed bloody murder about how Swanson and Albies were rushed - what's the harm in making a 20 year old FORCE his way onto the roster by doing something other than plastering a bunch of not ready for prime-time kids during spring training???

    I want to see him in the lineup as much as everyone, but if you've ever *itched about Dansby and/or Ozzie being rushed too quickly, shut up about how much Acuna "belongs in the lineup" unless you honestly believe this team is a playoff contender - he certainly hasn't done anything to prove that in the last week.

    He's not hitting AAA Pitchers - exactly how many hits do you guess he would've had against Scherzer and Strasburg???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Good god, who cares about spring training?
    same people who should care about 3 games at AAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    They mean about the same amount as three April games at the MLB level, no???

    No one's arguing that Acuna has one spot at some point for God's sake. He's 2-19 at Gwinnett after tonight - what exactly is the rush???

    All you folks have constantly screamed bloody murder about how Swanson and Albies were rushed - what's the harm in making a 20 year old FORCE his way onto the roster by doing something other than plastering a bunch of not ready for prime-time kids during spring training???

    I want to see him in the lineup as much as everyone, but if you've ever *itched about Dansby and/or Ozzie being rushed too quickly, shut up about how much Acuna "belongs in the lineup" unless you honestly believe this team is a playoff contender - he certainly hasn't done anything to prove that in the last week.

    He's not hitting AAA Pitchers - exactly how many hits do you guess he would've had against Scherzer and Strasburg???
    Acuna is one of the best hitters in the Braves organization. He's in AAA for one reason and it's not because Tucker is better than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Acuna is one of the best hitters in the Braves organization. He's in AAA for one reason and it's not because Tucker is better than him.
    There is not a single person here that would disagree with this, even clv. That is not the point of his post. He is just saying there is not a need to rush. I may not even agree with him, but don't mock someone by misrepresenting their point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    There is not a single person here that would disagree with this, even clv. That is not the point of his post. He is just saying there is not a need to rush. I may not even agree with him, but don't mock someone by misrepresenting their point.
    I agree there's no reason to rush, but you're not really rushing a guy who's pretty obviously ready. I agree with the comments above -- three or four AAA games don't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    There is not a single person here that would disagree with this, even clv. That is not the point of his post. He is just saying there is not a need to rush. I may not even agree with him, but don't mock someone by misrepresenting their point.
    But he's not being rushed. He's already proven he can handle AAA last year. A couple of games to start the year mean nothing. Only reason he didn't start with the team is due to service time. A couple of games of him not hitting with Tucker having a hot first week shouldn't change anything.

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    Man - I can't believe people are even contemplating not calling up Acuna as soon as he hits super 2 status. GET HIM UP HERE NOW!
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    I put no stock in spring training numbers. I can remember when such luminaries as Travis Wilson and Cory Aldridge had monster springs that had some all atwitter about whether they should start the season with the big club. Acuna is going to be a good player (unlike the other two), so the comparison doesn't completely hold, but the Braves made the correct decision in sending him to AAA (where he has gotten off to a slow start). Let him get his feet underneath him there before calling him up.

    As for Tucker, I think he can contribute but like others have said, he's a pretty much known commodity and there aren't a lot of tigers that change their stripes at his age. He is healthy after some injury issues and maybe working with Seitzer has helped change a few things to make him marginally more productive, but if he puts up an OPS > .800, I'll be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    They mean about the same amount as three April games at the MLB level, no???

    No one's arguing that Acuna has one spot at some point for God's sake. He's 2-19 at Gwinnett after tonight - what exactly is the rush???

    All you folks have constantly screamed bloody murder about how Swanson and Albies were rushed - what's the harm in making a 20 year old FORCE his way onto the roster by doing something other than plastering a bunch of not ready for prime-time kids during spring training???

    I want to see him in the lineup as much as everyone, but if you've ever *itched about Dansby and/or Ozzie being rushed too quickly, shut up about how much Acuna "belongs in the lineup" unless you honestly believe this team is a playoff contender - he certainly hasn't done anything to prove that in the last week.

    He's not hitting AAA Pitchers - exactly how many hits do you guess he would've had against Scherzer and Strasburg???
    No one has ever argued Albies was rushed. Even still, in 97 AAA games last year, he OPS'd .771.
    In 84 AA games in 2016, Dansby OPS'd .745 and only played in 11 AAA games before coming up.

    Acuna, meanwhile, OPS'd .895 in 57 AA games last year, and even with the 5 games so far this year, he has still OPS'd .893 in 59 AAA games.

    And yes, then in addition to that, he blitzed the AFL and ST. Lulz at the thought of him being rushed or not ready.

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