Need 3rd Lefty in the Pen

[nsacpi]

I like Sam Freeman and am concerned he is getting Cory Gearrined. The other lefty Minter is not being used in matchup situations. We have 4 righties in the rotation. Other teams stack their lineups with lefties when they are pitching. This means the situation often calls for a lefty when we go to the pen. Right now Sam Freeman is carrying the entire load.

[ball4life32]

Bring up Fried and put him in the bullpen.

[nsacpi]

Bring up Fried and put him in the bullpen.

probably our best internal option...DFA Jackson...call up Fried...save Sam Freeman's arm

[msstate7]

I really don't wanna give up on fried as a starter. What about Phillip pfeifer?

MiLB career...
113.1 ip 87 h 41 er 75 bb 147 k
Era = 3.26
Whip = 1.43
BAA = .215

Obviously the walks are high, but I would rather take a chance on him and let fried keep starting at AAA.

[nsacpi]

I really don't wanna give up on fried as a starter. What about Phillip pfeifer?

MiLB career...
113.1 ip 87 h 41 er 75 bb 147 k
Era = 3.26
Whip = 1.43
BAA = .215

Obviously the walks are high, but I would rather take a chance on him and let fried keep starting at AAA.

are we punting in 2018 or aiming to play meaningful baseball in September...if the latter we should bring up Fried...lets be realistic about his chances of developing into a starting pitcher at the major league level

[GeorgiaGirl]

Why not try Jesse Biddle while he's hot?

[nsacpi]

Why not try Jesse Biddle while he's hot?

Biddle has reverse splits. Not a situational lefty.

[Southcack77]

Allard or Fried would make sense to me.

[BeanieAntics]

are we punting in 2018 or aiming to play meaningful baseball in September...if the latter we should bring up Fried...lets be realistic about his chances of developing into a starting pitcher at the major league level

Plus its not like using him as a lefty reliever means he is totally done as a starter. It would just give him more looks against MLB hitting.

[clvclv]

probably our best internal option...DFA Jackson...call up Fried...save Sam Freeman's arm

Sam Freeman is nothing - think I was told that already - why on earth worry about him???

[thethe]

I'd be excited to see fried be a longish/situational lefty.

[nsacpi]

Sam Freeman is nothing - think I was told that already - why on earth worry about him???

cuz if he goes down we are down to zero situational lefties

[clvclv]

cuz if he goes down we are down to zero situational lefties

That wasn't the way it was explained before (not necessarily by you - not interested in digging through to find out whoever ridiculed me). The explanation was that Freeman wasn't worth trying to lock down to a team-friendly deal since guys like him apparently grow on trees. No need to worry - if he goes down, AA can send someone out in the woods and get another one of him.

[Tapate50]

That wasn't the way it was explained before (not necessarily by you - not interested in digging through to find out whoever ridiculed me). The explanation was that Freeman wasn't worth trying to lock down to a team-friendly deal since guys like him apparently grow on trees. No need to worry - if he goes down, AA can send someone out in the woods and get another one of him.

That wasn't the case at all.

The argument was that he is under team control for like a bazillion years and is a BP arm that isn't a baby. Thus we have him under control for his useful tenure most likely. No need to guarantee his contract through any further. Risk isn't worth the reward.

You hold onto gripes too long. Your position was incorrect, and failed to see why and then just find a spot to bring up the salty wound again when it doesn't really fit into the thread. Grow up.

[clvclv]

That wasn't the case at all.

The argument was that he is under team control for like a bazillion years and is a BP arm that isn't a baby. Thus we have him under control for his useful tenure most likely. No need to guarantee his contract through any further. Risk isn't worth the reward.

You hold onto gripes too long. Your position was incorrect, and failed to see why and then just find a spot to bring up the salty wound again when it doesn't really fit into the thread. Grow up.

Then isn't risking him staying healthy as the only situational lefty in the pen minimal?

[Southcack77]

Then isn't risking him staying healthy as the only situational lefty in the pen minimal?

I think those are separate issues, but I agree that Freeman is probably being overworked right now.

[clvclv]

That wasn't the case at all.

The argument was that he is under team control for like a bazillion years and is a BP arm that isn't a baby. Thus we have him under control for his useful tenure most likely. No need to guarantee his contract through any further. Risk isn't worth the reward.

You hold onto gripes too long. Your position was incorrect, and failed to see why and then just find a spot to bring up the salty wound again when it doesn't really fit into the thread. Grow up.

BTW, the entire reason (and I stated it at the time) I said I was interested in locking him up was to provide cost-certainty - if you could lock him up through his arbitration control for less than market value, I said I'd do it. if he becomes a $1 million a year guy over that period, it would save you several million.

My response has nothing to do with a gripe - hence my non-interest in looking old threads up.

[msstate7]

I think those are separate issues, but I agree that Freeman is probably being overworked right now.

No question he is being overworked

[Tapate50]

BTW, the entire reason (and I stated it at the time) I said I was interested in locking him up was to provide cost-certainty - if you could lock him up through his arbitration control for less than market value, I said I'd do it. if he becomes a $1 million a year guy over that period, it would save you several million.

My response has nothing to do with a gripe - hence my non-interest in looking old threads up.

yeah, ok.