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    GDT: Mets @ Braves game 2

    Conforto CF
    Cespedes LF
    Cabrera 2B
    Frazier 3B
    Flores 1B
    Bruce RF
    Nido C
    Syndergaard P 2-0 2.95 ERA
    Rosario SS


    Inciarte CF
    Albies 2B
    Freeman 1B
    Markakis RF
    Suzuki C
    Tucker LF
    Swanson SS
    Flaherty 3B
    Newcomb P 1-1 4.02 ERA
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    Newcomb is going to have a huge game tonight... looking for less than two walks.

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    It appears the FO isn't too worried about seeing what they have in Camargo.

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    I guess Snitker is waiting until Flaherty turns into his eventual pumpkin.

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    I have a feeling we are either going to score no runs off Thor.....or 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
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    on base at least two more times tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It appears the FO isn't too worried about seeing what they have in Camargo.
    Frustrating.

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    Absolutely ridiculous for Camargo not to get a start here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It appears the FO isn't too worried about seeing what they have in Camargo.
    It's a little confusing. I totally get pegging Camargo as a reserve infielder / super-utility guy; but you'd still think they'd want him to gain as many PAs as possible while the Braves are, at best, fringe wild-card contenders, and while there's an absence of any clearly better options at 3B. It's useful both for their evaluation and his growth curve.

    Is there an angle with Flaherty that nobody's mentioned? Or is this just banal "hot hand" logic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    It's a little confusing. I totally get pegging Camargo as a reserve infielder / super-utility guy; but you'd still think they'd want him to gain as many PAs as possible while the Braves are, at best, fringe wild-card contenders, and while there's an absence of any clearly better options at 3B. It's useful both for their evaluation and his growth curve.

    Is there an angle with Flaherty that nobody's mentioned? Or is this just banal "hot hand" logic?
    go with the banal
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    go with the banal
    The old lex bannalis variant of parsimony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    It's a little confusing. I totally get pegging Camargo as a reserve infielder / super-utility guy; but you'd still think they'd want him to gain as many PAs as possible while the Braves are, at best, fringe wild-card contenders, and while there's an absence of any clearly better options at 3B. It's useful both for their evaluation and his growth curve.

    Is there an angle with Flaherty that nobody's mentioned? Or is this just banal "hot hand" logic?
    Leading the league in batting average likely has something to do with it. But yeah as long as he's swinging well I doubt much changes. That said I think we will see plenty of Camargo at 3B this year to get an idea of what he can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Leading the league in batting average likely has something to do with it. But yeah as long as he's swinging well I doubt much changes. That said I think we will see plenty of Camargo at 3B this year to get an idea of what he can do.
    By "angle with Flaherty" I meant: Is there any reason, heretofore unnoticed or unnoted, to believe Flaherty's early success might be at all sustainable, or otherwise the mark of some "real" improvement? But I suppose even a "smart" administration that realizes Flaherty's more likely than not to plummet from his current (.429-babip-fueled) productivity is nevertheless going to be loathe to bench a guy with a .352 AVG (even if it's only through 64 PA).
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    I expect no Camargo is Snit's move as he likes to go with the hot hand. I doubt AA added him thinking he'd sit a while. If he doesn't start tomorrow Snit and AA might need to have a conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    By "angle with Flaherty" I meant: Is there any reason, heretofore unnoticed or unnoted, to believe Flaherty's early success might be at all sustainable, or otherwise the mark of some "real" improvement? But I suppose even a "smart" administration that realizes Flaherty's more likely than not to plummet from his current (.429-babip-fueled) productivity is nevertheless going to be loathe to bench a guy with a .352 AVG (even if it's only through 64 PA).
    Aside from the BABIP his strikeout and walk rate numbers are better. Even if this is "real" I think Camargo is slightly better. And of course Camargo has more upside and might be more than slightly better. But the most likely scenario is Camargo is slightly better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Aside from the BABIP his strikeout and walk rate numbers are better. Even if this is "real" I think Camargo is slightly better. And of course Camargo has more upside and might be more than slightly better. But the most likely scenario is Camargo is slightly better.
    Plus Camargo is certainly better defensively, he can be a plus defender at third. This isn't to say RF defense has been an issue. He's been fine on defense too. Camargo is just better.
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    Right now the whole infield is hitting well and except for some careless mistakes by Albies fielding well. But eventually someone will get hurt or slump. Camargo will get plenty of playing time. In a month or so, I think he will be the starting third baseman and Flaherty will be the utility guy. It is not a bad thing to be in a position to rest your starting infielders once a week or once every other week. Albies, Swanson and Camargo are all better against lefty pitching. So Flaherty is a nice guy to be able to bring in against certain righties.
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    Are the Dodgers using Kemp like the Braves are Tucker? I haven't followed them much since the first week. I just noted Kemp actually has a 1 DRS in 87 innings so far in LF. Tucker has a -1 DRS with us in just over a 100 or so innings. Whatever the case, Kemp has had a good start on offense for them. But so has Preston Tucker here leading the NL in RBI's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    By "angle with Flaherty" I meant: Is there any reason, heretofore unnoticed or unnoted, to believe Flaherty's early success might be at all sustainable, or otherwise the mark of some "real" improvement? But I suppose even a "smart" administration that realizes Flaherty's more likely than not to plummet from his current (.429-babip-fueled) productivity is nevertheless going to be loathe to bench a guy with a .352 AVG (even if it's only through 64 PA).
    Even as a small sample helped out batting 8th and getting free passes, RF had never hit above .224 in a season all his years with Baltimore. So he is certainly doing better than he ever has with the bat in MLB. He's turned out to be a solid pick-up by AA.

    It's nice to see Georgia boy Swanson leading the NL in batting today after last year. He is tied with RF in batting average now.
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