Was he just kinda done in 2010?
I ask cuz I (I think) remember some rumor that Frank Wren was gonna force him out either way. I assume this isn't true, and would much appreciate y'alls clarification on this. Thank ya!
Was he just kinda done in 2010?
I ask cuz I (I think) remember some rumor that Frank Wren was gonna force him out either way. I assume this isn't true, and would much appreciate y'alls clarification on this. Thank ya!
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Because he didn’t want to tarnish his image of being a good manager after his hall of famers had all left.
Coppy
LOL, did you see the team he won 91 games with in 2010? What about the teams he won the division with in ‘04 and ‘05? After Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, he did nothing but validate his reputation.Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt
Runnin (04-25-2018)
Because he was old
I believe his knees were both really hurting him.
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04 and 10 were pretty good teams. 04 had Drew, Jones, Jones, Furcal, Giles before he fully fell apart, an effective LaRoche/Julio platoon. And of course surprise it's the one good season of Johnny Estrada's career. Pitching was a little more harrowing, that's for sure as for starters it was basically Wright and Thomson. Thomson was an undervalued pitcher in Colorado and Texas, he was very solid for his era but his ERA never really matched his peripherals. Wright was the best creation from Cox/Mazzone. They took someone with great raw ability and got him to perform more consistently. 2010 was a great team. Pre-arm break down Hanson, pre-face bust Heyward, Wagner/Venters/Saito shutting everything down in the pen. Prado at peak form, Mac at peak form, Infante at peak form. Really the only ****s on the team were Melky and McLouth. If McLouth hadn't just magically forgotten how to play baseball when he was traded here, or if Melky just took his roids one year sooner, the 2010 team would have really been epic.
People forget that 2010-2013 or so were all supposed to be great years. Braves had a lot of players coming up and the vets were all guys in their mid-late 20s. Aside from Chipper, Lowe, and Hudson we didn't have many old starters. Most of our starters were younger. THat being said, Fredi is not a good manager, and that was obvious.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
I didn't think he was a good baseball coach at all, 14 pennants and only 1 WS, says it all.
Managers don't win games in baseball, players do. Managers are there to manage personalities. Totally different than football and basketball.
Serious?
Coppy
Managers don't win games with their decisions, but they damn sure lose them.
The best ones manage players, as you said, and avoid making dumb ass moves such as leaving the best closer in baseball in the bullpen to watch a scrub serve up a BP fastball to another scrub to end the season.
Braves1976 (04-27-2018)
Sorry if I hurt your feelings my friend, but he sucked as a baseball coach and I said as much on the Scout board and received my only ban ever because of it by that piece of crap Bill Shanks.
I was tired us winning the 162 season and pissing on the pot in the post season because of him. He sucked, period.
VirginiaBrave (04-25-2018)
But managers can make crucial mistakes that cost games.
Remember when Fredi was platooning Heyward and Reed Johnson?
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Wren wouldn't force Cox out for Fredi Gonzalez. If Wren had that much control we never would have had Fredi Gonzalez come in.
I'm pretty sure Cox leaving had a lot to do with just being old. He was 69 when he retired.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Cox had A LOT to do with Fredi becoming the replacement, simply because Fredi had been a Cox lieutenant. Plus, Fredi had to get bounced from Florida. Cox called up and put Marlins management on blast, but it should have been obvious who the next Braves manager was going to be.
Braves1976 (04-27-2018)
162 game season. Bobby was supreme. Playoffs. He was continuely out classed. He was very by the book, use your gut and stay with what got you there kind of manager.
Coppy
AerchAngel (04-25-2018), Braves1976 (04-27-2018), FreemanFan (04-25-2018), VirginiaBrave (04-25-2018)
Why we lost all of them.
We had a better team most of the time and a way better pitching staff. He sucked as a manager. If we had someone like LaDoucha or Scoscia I guarantee we would have at least 3 or 4 more WS wins.
I got banned by Bill Skanks and Mike because I tore into Bobby on several occasions during that time.
I was banned from saying Bobby Cocksucker, Booby Cox and Booby Cocks.
And pitching coaches are why major pitchers aren't good and hitting coaches are why major league hitters don't get hits and bullpen coaches are why relievers walk people.
Baseball is almost entirely about players executing against one another in one on one situations. That's it.
I hate the Braves didn't win more WS during their window, but that window closed a lot earlier than Cox's tenure did even though the Braves continued to win division championships.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Tapate50 (04-26-2018)
I think overall there were several factors. Bobby's age, Bobby's wife was ready for him to stay home, and very simply Bobby and Wren didn't see eye to eye. Rumors say it started over Smoltz's and Glavine's exits.
Did she get her concealed carry permit?
Slippyjms (04-25-2018)
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