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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Only cost A's 17th and a non top 30 prospect and some international money for Familia, doesnt seem like much.
    Other guy, Wahl, is a 26-year-old AAA pitcher who got a cup of coffee with Oakland in 2017.

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    Orioles DFA Chris Tillman. Seriously, what the hades happened to this guy? He was an all-star in 2013, 16-6 in 2016, 2-12 the last two seasons with a 10.46 ERA this season.

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    What about Seunghwan Oh? He's only making 1.75 this season, and will make 2.5 next season.

    10.8 k9
    2.0 bb9
    2.80 era
    3.07 FIP

    Get Britton to pair with him along with moose, and become an contender

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    Wahl is similar in value to Wisler. Maybe a little more. The equivalent to Toffey is Demeritte.

    Familia is owed $3M the rest of the way. Britton is owed about $5M.

    The A's are taking on all of the $3M. Plus they are sending $1M of international slot money to the Mets. $1M will get you a pretty good international prospect.

    I will stick to my estimate that it would take Wisler and Ynoa (or some similar package) to get Britton, with the O's picking up about half the remaining salary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Only cost A's 17th and a non top 30 prospect and some international money for Familia, doesnt seem like much.
    Basically what I figured it would cost. When the market is flooded with relievers, especially rentals, teams just aren't going to get the sort of return that the Yanks got with Chapman. Not to mention Chapman and Kimbrel are in a league of their own in terms of elite closers and the Cubbies were desperate to end their 100 year drought.

    A similar package was probably like Derian Cruz or Demeritte and a non-prospect like Wes Parsons, Luke Jackson, etc.

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    Wonder if we avoided Familia due to the domestic violence arrest. Not the Braves way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Wahl is similar in value to Wisler. Maybe a little more. The equivalent to Toffey is Demeritte.

    Familia is owed $3M the rest of the way. Britton is owed about $5M.

    The A's are taking on all of the $3M. Plus they are sending $1M of international slot money to the Mets. $1M will get you a pretty good international prospect.

    I will stick to my estimate that it would take Wisler and Ynoa (or some similar package) to get Britton, with the O's picking up about half the remaining salary.
    I think it would cost more than that for Britton, he's the top RP on the market, and lot of teams could use him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I think it would cost more than that for Britton, he's the top RP on the market, and lot of teams could use him.
    Don't count on it. Not only is he coming back from injury, he wasn't the top reliever before the Familia trade and there's now 2 less teams looking for a reliever with Cleveland and Oakland landing relievers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Kinda think AA shoots lower, but if I'm giving up an additional prospect I'd want a window to try to negotiate an extension with Britton to get a jump on this winter. Even if you don't get him now, aren't he and Doolittle your top targets this offseason? If you're a believer that Camargo and Riley can be the answer at 3B, maybe even go Rockies-nuts and add one of them AND Ottavino to try to build a "super pen" with Britton/Doolittle, Viz, Minter, Ottavino, Winkler, Biddle, Carle/Phillips, and Freeman.

    Donaldson's price has to come down after another lost year, and if you could add he and Britton or Doolittle this team has to be mentioned as a legitimate contender next spring with a healthy Soroka and Gohara added to the rotation and Fried, Allard, Wright, and Touki percolating in Gwinnett.
    Doolittle isnt a free agent.

    And Britton, Biddle, Freeman, Minter seems pretty excessive on the left side. I've brought up going Rockies this winter on the RP market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Braves set their sites a little lower than Britton, but it’s great seeing them as legit buyers at the deadline.
    Define legit. They’ve let two relievers go by them for basically nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Define legit. They’ve let two relievers go by them for basically nothing.
    Familia?

    I wouldn't say the price is nothing. But it does suggest to me we should be making an offer for Britton with similar value to what the A's sent to the Mets.
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    Britton is more money cost and a lefty and more teams are fixated on him.

    Salas might be the best move the Braves make.

    Can’t part with Rio Ruiz for rental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Britton is more money cost and a lefty and more teams are fixated on him.

    Salas might be the best move the Braves make.

    Can’t part with Rio Ruiz for rental.
    what's with the Rio Ruiz fixation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Define legit. They’ve let two relievers go by them for basically nothing.
    Brad Hand, and Cimber were dealt for a borderline top 10 prospect.

    Braves arent in position to be making moves like that.

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    Didn’t know how else to describe a 24 year old college bat scuffling in single A or a 26 year old reliever prospect with two major surgeries (TJ and TOS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Brad Hand, and Cimber were dealt for a borderline top 10 prospect.

    Braves arent in position to be making moves like that.
    Not to whom I’m referring. But I’m not sure who is in position to give up a “top 10” prospect for controllable mlb assets at the Braves position of greatest news if not the Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Wahl is similar in value to Wisler. Maybe a little more. The equivalent to Toffey is Demeritte.

    Familia is owed $3M the rest of the way. Britton is owed about $5M.

    The A's are taking on all of the $3M. Plus they are sending $1M of international slot money to the Mets. $1M will get you a pretty good international prospect.

    I will stick to my estimate that it would take Wisler and Ynoa (or some similar package) to get Britton, with the O's picking up about half the remaining salary.
    Yeah this seems to have set the market for reliever rentals and it seems super affordable for us. I wasn't super high on a Britton deal because of the presumed cost, but Wisler and Ynoa or something along those lines would be fine with me. In the current market, I would honestly be fine with making a couple of trades for bullpen reinforcements if need be.

    I do wonder what the market is right now for supplemental position players. I would love to make a deal for Escobar if the price was right. He is looking like he could provide us about 1.5 wins the rest of the season and is a free agent after this year. He could probably be had for the same approximate price as Britton, or maybe even lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Yeah this seems to have set the market for reliever rentals and it seems super affordable for us. I wasn't super high on a Britton deal because of the presumed cost, but Wisler and Ynoa or something along those lines would be fine with me. In the current market, I would honestly be fine with making a couple of trades for bullpen reinforcements if need be.

    I do wonder what the market is right now for supplemental position players. I would love to make a deal for Escobar if the price was right. He is looking like he could provide us about 1.5 wins the rest of the season and is a free agent after this year. He could probably be had for the same approximate price as Britton, or maybe even lower.
    I think Escobar would cost slightly less than Britton. Both should be on AA's radar. They really complement the players we already have and would eliminate or mitigate a couple weaknesses.

    If we wanted to do single stop shopping we should be talking to the twins about Zach Duke and Escobar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Not to whom I’m referring. But I’m not sure who is in position to give up a “top 10” prospect for controllable mlb assets at the Braves position of greatest news if not the Braves.
    I meant top 10 in all of baseball, Mejia, borderline.

    Indians window low key closing, had to make a move.

    Braves will make a move eventually for an arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Britton is more money cost and a lefty and more teams are fixated on him.

    Salas might be the best move the Braves make.

    Can’t part with Rio Ruiz for rental.
    yes we can

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