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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    With respect to #2, I'm starting to think it would make sense to include Riley in our offer. I know you don't rate Camargo. But he's played 163 games and been a 3 WAR play over that span. I think he is still improving.
    Riley has nowhere near the value of Swanson/Albies/Acuna. His inclusion in a trade should not be a non-starter like it was for the other 3 guys.

    That's a difference now compared to previous "get a TOR pitcher" blabber of years past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Entering 2015, #stlcards⁠ ⁠ had five outfield prospects that we ranked in the Top 15 for Baseball America's top 30.

    3. Piscotty
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    All have been in the majors this season. All now traded by #Cardinals. #MLB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Is his value higher? Right now he's coming off injury and fatness concerns...just like when the Braves acquired him.

    I think he was in single A when the Braves acquired him and he's since had a solid MLB debut as proof of concept. I think he'd have to be be more valuable now.

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    Crazy theory. We were pursuing Harvey as a backup to Archer. The more recent news is that we're not likely for Harvey. This being due to us being confident we're getting Archer.

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    I just realized the other possible reason for the Wilson move, preparing for Touki to MLB after one or two more days.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    If Allard goes to TB, who pitches tonight? Move Sanchez up to his regular spot? Archer takes the ball tomorrow on regular rest?
    Last edited by Enscheff; 07-31-2018 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    I just realized the other possible reason for the Wilson move, preparing for Touki to MLB after one or two more days.
    Bowman said it was possible he would be up this week to come out of the pen...

    Honestly I’m okay with that. Now that Wisler and Simms are gone we can see what we have in some of these guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If Allard goes to TB, who pitches tonight? Move Sanchez up to his regular spot? Archer takes the ball tomorrow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If Allard goes to TB, who pitches tonight?
    Call up Touki! Throw him to the wolves and see if he is Liam Neeson from The Grey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Riley has nowhere near the value of Swanson/Albies/Acuna. His inclusion in a trade should not be a non-starter like it was for the other 3 guys.

    That's a difference now compared to previous "get a TOR pitcher" blabber of years past.
    True. But I'm saying some teams might prefer Riley than say Anderson as the main piece.

    I would offer Tampa this:

    1) Choice of Riley or Anderson
    2) Choice of Fried or Touki
    3) A third guy on the order of Cumberland

    I would make the same offer to the Blue Jays for both Stroman and Solarte.

    I would tell both that this is my final offer. I would let them both know I've made a similar offer to another team and that the first one to accept gets the deal. It is an overpay on both scores, but the normal amount for this kind of deal at the deadline.

    I would prefer Stroman and Solarte to Archer for the same price.
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    With the Rays taking so long to trade Archer today I wonder if the offers coming in are considerably less than what they anticipated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    Starting rotation when Allard goes back down (if no one traded).

    Toussaint
    Wright
    Allard
    Gohara
    Parsons

    That's 5 sir without factoring Bryse Wilson in. Although I was originally thinking that they'd simply bump Sims and Wisler from the rotation, and as Parsons is a non prospect, they might simply bump him, but Wilson to AAA could indicate another move coming since while he's dominated lately, he's 20 and there shouldn't be a rush.

    I don't think you would promote Wilson BECAUSE you just had a AAA spot open.

    That doesn't make much sense to me.

    Granted it doesn't make much sense to me to promote him at all so what do I know.

    Braves have finally made their decision on Wisler and Sims. Seems reasonable they would transition Parsons to whatever realistic role that he might have left be to play. He certainly doesn't look like someone who will ever pitch in the Atlanta rotation.

    oh yeah, and I hard forgotten it was likely Touki might be headed up or getting bullpen work. Bullpen might be destination for Wilson for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    If the Pirates get Archer, I will laugh, be pissed and laugh more.
    If the Pirates offer Keller there isn't anything the Braves can do. Pirates simply won.

    If the Pirates get Archer without giving up Keller, then AA didn't want him as badly as some reports suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    With the Rays taking so long to trade Archer today I wonder if the offers coming in are considerably less than what they anticipated.
    I have to imagine so. Archer certainly isn't doing them any favors pitching more like a mid rotation starter than an ace. And it's clear from comments that at least some GMs likely don't value him as more than a good mid rotation pitcher.

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    Orioles nearing a deal

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    Word is the Harvey market has slowed as teams are waiting to find out if they can land Archer...


    Also Crasnick is reporting the Os are on the verge of making another trade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If Allard goes to TB, who pitches tonight? Move Sanchez up to his regular spot? Archer takes the ball tomorrow on regular rest?
    Kyle Wright could start I suppose.

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    O’s Trading everyone. Good for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Orioles nearing a deal
    If they send a SP to the Brewers or Pirates that increases the chances of the Braves getting Archer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    O’s Trading everyone. Good for them
    Except Adam Jones who doesn't want to be traded.

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