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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    That sucks about Gohara. I'd prefer Soroka without a rehab start over Wisler.
    Whatever we do with Soroka should prioritize his long-term health and effectiveness. I think being a bit cautious and giving him a AAA start is the way to go. I know we are trying to win this year, but we should balance that against long-term interests of players and club when it comes to Soroka and Gohara.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Why bring up Allard. Soroka should be eligible to come off DL today or tomorrow. If so he should be one of the starters for the mets series. Assuming health. No reason to add Allard to the 40 man roster before the rule 5 this winter. He can make his case in AAA and spring next season.
    To have a long man in one of these games in the event a starter goes out early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Whatever we do with Soroka should prioritize his long-term health and effectiveness. I think being a bit cautious and giving him a AAA start is the way to go.
    This 100%. While I'm loving winning games in 2018 in reality we are way ahead of expectations. Sorokas health is paramount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    To have a long man in one of these games in the event a starter goes out early.
    Assuming they are not used up in the Boston series, Sims and Biddle can play that role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Assuming they are not used up in the Boston series, Sims and Biddle can play that role.
    Sims should not appear in any major league games for the Braves in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Whatever we do with Soroka should prioritize his long-term health and effectiveness. I think being a bit cautious and giving him a AAA start is the way to go. I know we are trying to win this year, but we should balance that against long-term interests of players and club when it comes to Soroka and Gohara.
    I don’t think he was out long enough to have that concern. He can throw a simulated game today or even yesterday if healthy. I don’t think a AAA start is much different than a monitored MLB start. I agree long term is important. I just don’t see the risk associated at this point. Especially if this was the Braves just gaming the 10 day system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Sims should not appear in any major league games for the Braves in my opinion.
    Actually, I would rather he play the role of "sacrificial lamb" in the pen than Allard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I don’t think he was out long enough to have that concern. He can throw a simulated game today or even yesterday if healthy. I don’t think a AAA start is much different than a monitored MLB start. I agree long term is important. I just don’t see the risk associated at this point. Especially if this was the Braves just gaming the 10 day system.
    I'd rather be cautious. Soroka seems very level-headed, but he's also competitive and would probably try to pitch through some stuff if he was in a major league game. So I'd rather he make a five inning start in AAA and make sure everything is good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I don’t think he was out long enough to have that concern. He can throw a simulated game today or even yesterday if healthy. I don’t think a AAA start is much different than a monitored MLB start. I agree long term is important. I just don’t see the risk associated at this point. Especially if this was the Braves just gaming the 10 day system.
    I agree with this. If he's ready and healthy enough for a AAA rehab start he's ready for a MLB start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Actually, I would rather he play the role of "sacrificial lamb" in the pen than Allard.
    But even in those sacrificial lamb scenarios if no runs are allowed it gives the team a chance to come back. We are waiving the white flag when Sims comes in and I'd rather never do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I agree with this. If he's ready and healthy enough for a AAA rehab start he's ready for a MLB start.
    Wins and losses matter in the big leagues. That fact in it of itself makes the start 'different' for Soroka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Wins and losses matter in the big leagues. That fact in it of itself makes the start 'different' for Soroka.
    You're right. And i'd rather have Soroka out there than Wisler. Put him on a limit if you want.

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    Only reason I see a rehab start is if they want to knock some rust off. But I feel safe with a controlled start in MLB is no less risky than a AAA start. Competitive is not an arguement. He will want to win regardless where he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Only reason I see a rehab start is if they want to knock some rust off. But I feel safe with a controlled start in MLB is no less risky than a AAA start. Competitive is not an arguement. He will want to win regardless where he is.
    But the Braves can pull the cord faster and without consequence at AAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    But the Braves can pull the cord faster and without consequence at AAA.
    They can with an mlb start. You can have him on a 70 pitch limit with Wisler or fried as backup. I would rather have soroka go five innings than either those two start. Have Wisler start game one. Then option him to AAA before game 2 and acticate soroka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    They can with an mlb start. You can have him on a 70 pitch limit with Wisler or fried as backup. I would rather have soroka go five innings than either those two start. Have Wisler start game one. Then option him to AAA before game 2 and acticate soroka.
    Wouldn't be necessary because teams get a 26th player for double header days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Wouldn't be necessary because teams get a 26th player for double header days.
    True
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    Wait, y’all think Soroka has a real injury?
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    Is there an easy way to look at data for Freeman pitching on a second day in a row vs. pitching after at least one day of rest? In my limited viewing he seems much less effective on the second day in a row appearances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Is there an easy way to look at data for Freeman pitching on a second day in a row vs. pitching after at least one day of rest? In my limited viewing he seems much less effective on the second day in a row appearances.
    game logs are available on fangraphs
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