Our long national nightmare is over. Per Bowman on twitter.
Our long national nightmare is over. Per Bowman on twitter.
Camargo getting his shot
good to see that AA is willing to cut his losses in a timely manner when an experiment does not work out...it was worth a shot as long as we were clear-eyed about the chances of success
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
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Think this probably reflects everybody's general thoughts.Originally Posted by nsacpi
No harm, no foul - the experiment didn't hurt anything, but when it was becoming apparent it wasn't going to work out (and there was no lightning in this bottle) AA quickly pulled the plug as he should have.
I still haven't seen enough to make me believe that they're convinced that Camargo can hold down the position for a playoff team (or is more than a utility guy) YET, but as long as the team continues to play well despite not having a clear-cut "answer" at 3B, Camargo is at least as good - if not decidedly better - than the other current alternatives. While Johan might not be good enough offensively (the question that remains), he's NOT going to hurt this team defensively - and as long as other guys continue stepping up and performing (even overperforming in some cases) and everyone can continue to be bit players and one or two guys don't have to carry the entire load, I think everyone's fine with finding out exactly what Camargo can be.
If/when guys regress and the team starts to struggle, I can't imagine the fact that AA said "Camargo will be the everyday 3B" on May 20th means he will be come August 31st - if he doesn't perform better than he did during Dansby's absence and the team's still competing for a playoff spot, I can't imagine he'll still be the guy down the stretch. Either Beltre or Moustakas are still perfect fits that won't block Riley in the event he doesn't force his own call-up.
Congrats Johan, you've finally gotten your shot - now run with it.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
jpx7 (05-20-2018)
This is great news!
So is this to give Camargo his shot now or does AA have a trade coming up shortly? That play to end game last night by Camargo may have sealed Bautista's fate
Camargo time!
The Braves have released Jose Bautista. Anthopoulos says Camargo will be the everyday third baseman.
Per Bowman.
thethe happy.
Me happy too
I'm happy too, it was worth a shot, but Camargo starting and Flaherty as UTIL guy is good and a bat off the bench is best of the squad.
Happy my SS is back too, missed Dansbae.
Wouldn't have minded him as the right handed power bat off the bench, but this was clearly the right move.
Now don’t trip over a chalk line lol.
So this is the next step. If Camargo does well great. If not, AA considers calling up Riley if he is doing well. If Camargo can’t hold down the position and Riley isn’t setting the world on fire....AA considers a short term acquisition like Moose.
In saying that...I think Camargo will do just fine and keep the position for the rest of the year. Either way...we get to see what he is...which is the smart thing to do.
One of the rare times when we on the board are completely united.....
Interesting to hear AA discuss Camargo's batted ball data and saying their analysis shows that he has a good chance to handle the job. The times they are a changin.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
jpx7 (05-20-2018)
There is a god!!!!!!!!!
On Sunday, my prayer was answered.
Freshmaker (05-20-2018)
Yup. xWOBA is 373 which is 5th best on the team right behind Acuna. Compared to his actual 332 WOBA. So the mention of bad luck holds up here. His overall exit veloity is 91.7 which puts him tied for 54th right ahead of Harper and Trout.
Those are two things that our previous FO likely had no clue about.
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I am keeping this FO at arms length still. My coppyhart was broken with their cheating bs. But things like this go a long ways to healing.
Coppy
gold standard franchise...braves way
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Brandon Drury has been pushed out of the 3B job with the Yanks due to his migraines and the emergence of Andujar. I'm certainly not advocating Drury be aggressively pursued or suggesting he'd be an upgrade over Camargo, but he has played around the diamond during his time in the big leagues and I wonder if he could somehow be a fit for us. Price might be too high given where he's at contract/control-wise.
I'm fine with Camargo getting a full shot. Tapate50 and I have been on him since his debut and it's time to see what we have got in him.
I thought the Bautista move was foolish from the get-go. That said, he did hit a big dinger against the Cubs last week.
jpx7 (05-20-2018)
K on both plate experiences with the bases loaded and the pitcher threw a fastball (91 and 93 straight as an arrow) down the middle raises eyebrows.
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