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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Fried's CU is probably better than a 60 with it's elite downward movement. It's quite possibly the best 12-6 CU in the game, whether or not that makes it a 60 or 70 or 80 overall is open for debate.

    What's not open for debate is that's it's a very good pitch.
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    At least a 60 CU. That's great to hear. Makes sense, even a great pitch can get hit hard if they know it's coming, you hang it, etc.

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    I'm so turned on reading this. #MyAce is back!!!!

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    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-frie...d-his-ceiling/

    According to Statcast, just two starters have allowed a lower barrel percentage than Fried this year, and neither one of those — Mike Clevinger and Aaron Civale — have been in the majors all season the way Fried has. When setting the standard to 400 batted ball events, Fried has allowed the lowest barrel rate and the second-lowest average launch angle in baseball. Meanwhile, his xwOBA has stayed in the 69th percentile, and his xSLG is in the 71st percentile.

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    He appears to be throwing 2 types of FA as well...one that cuts and one that has typical arm side movement. We saw him burying what appeared to be a cut FA inside to RHH during his last start.

    No idea if he's doing it on purpose, or if his FA just moves different directions pitch to pitch, but it is another thing worth monitoring. Needless to say very few LHP throw a cutter, sinker, slider, curve and change that are all above average with average or better control.

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    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-frie...d-his-ceiling/

    Because while his breaking pitches have been dominant this season, his fastball continues to lag behind. It’s picked up a small amount of velocity, but it’s getting hit hard, with a .375 opponents’ wOBA and a .360 xwOBA, according to Statcast. Of the 17 homers Fried has given up this season, 10 have come against the four-seamer. It isn’t one of the most unusable fastballs we’ve seen, but it is something of a liability.
    Something we have known for awhile thanks to Enscheff pointing this out over a year ago.

    And then there are the Braves finally taking action

    His four-seam usage, once 60% back in April, has dropped in every month this season, falling to 51.7% in August. His slider usage, meanwhile, has gradually increased, from 7% in April to a peak of 19.4% in July.

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    This is a damn good informative thread!
    Max is rapidly becoming my favorite pitcher.
    Dude can hit too.

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    If max can start getting through the batting order the 3rd time and stay healthy, he will be a TOR guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
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    Something we have known for awhile thanks to Enscheff pointing this out over a year ago.

    And then there are the Braves finally taking action
    A slider/sinker was glaring for Fried. Sure he could fool guys who first seeing him. But a curve/fastball mix is not enough to make it. He has to have something that tunnels like his fastball but moves. Glad he finally throwing the slider and hoping he continues to develop a change of cutter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
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    Something we have known for awhile thanks to Enscheff pointing this out over a year ago.

    And then there are the Braves finally taking action
    If Fried becomes a guy with a plus SI, a usable FA with some cut action, an average or better CH, and 2 wipe out breaking balls to go along with average or better control, he will be the best SP in the organization.

    That's the path he's currently going down, and I hope he keeps going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If Fried becomes a guy with a plus SI, a usable FA with some cut action, an average or better CH, and 2 wipe out breaking balls to go along with average or better control, he will be the best SP in the organization.

    That's the path he's currently going down, and I hope he keeps going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If Fried becomes a guy with a plus SI, a usable FA with some cut action, an average or better CH, and 2 wipe out breaking balls to go along with average or better control, he will be the best SP in the organization.

    That's the path he's currently going down, and I hope he keeps going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
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    Fried does it all.

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