Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
I get it and I'm not saying that you are making up these points.

What I'd like to know and I'm sure you have that data is the rate at which various pitches generate GB's based on the grades you are putting on them. Is it possible to have such high GB rates without throwing an effective 2 seamer?
Well, look at Newk's GB rates vs Folty's, almost entirely due to Newk's superior breaking ball. Newk hasn't thrown a single SI at the MLB level.