Kiley being vague.
Kiley being vague.
Coppy
Should've posted this with the last post, but this is what he said at the beginning of his chat:Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt
"Lots of rumors flying around about unsigned prep picks. Suffice it to say we've heard somewhat reliable buzz about all of them possibly not signing, but it's likely almost all of them do...though the buzz is of varying seriousness. So can't really help you with the specific ones more than an inkling as to what happens right before the deadline."
Not so worried about Stewart signing. If he is dumb enough to pass on life changing money to play college. Then so be it and we will have a stacked draft next year. Don’t bend over for a teenager who thinks he can hold a team hostage.
I am not saying that is what is going on. Just saying I am not so worried about it this year. Our other guys are pretty much around slot. So losing that bonus pool wouldn’t put us in pentalty.
Coppy
Stewart not signing would suck big time. So worse case is we would get the 9th pick next year? I'd lot rather sign Carter.
UGH!!!
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Every single pick that has signed so far in the Top 16 has been below slot, or right at it.
http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/draft/
Some of the unsigned are probably getting over slot deals.
Stewart will likely sign for $5M+.
If he has someone in his ear suggesting he should assume the risk of going to college with the potential upside being moving up a few slots in the draft, that adviser doesn't have Stewart's best interests in mind.
Last edited by Enscheff; 06-26-2018 at 12:59 PM.
50PoundHead (06-26-2018), jpx7 (06-26-2018)
The weird part of potentially going to school is the coach he committed to got fired early in the year, and their interim HC/pitching coach didn't get the full-time job. So he'd be going to a school where I believe he'd know only one of their assistant coaches and have no familiarity with the head coach. Seems pretty clearly like this is just a negotiating ploy and he'll end up signing.
jpx7 (06-26-2018)
No they don’t. I am sure the offer is fair. If Stewart wants to go to college for 2+ years in hopes he makes 2 million more then I honestly don’t want someone that dumb on my team.
Coppy
Can't put a price on that Mississippi State education though.
buck75 (06-26-2018)
Looked it up (since you can put a price on it), and out-of-state is actually more than I expected.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
The Braves didn't offer Josh Anthony life-changing money, but they did offer to basically go double the slot value for him and he went to Auburn. I wonder if he misses the cash.
As for Stewart, junior college is an alternate route. He would be eligible for the 2019 draft if he did that. But maybe Stewart should call Matt Harrington. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Harrington
jpx7 (06-26-2018)
Costco, at least, offers its employees pretty good benefits, unlike minor league baseball.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Are there any instances of a guy going to college rather than taking Top 5-10 money and actually having a happy outcome?
If a kid comes from a family with assets in the $1M range, I can see the logic in turning down a few hundred thousand dollars. But to risk getting hurt as a pitcher by turning down $5M just to try to earn $7M later...all the while delaying your FA another 3 years when you can be making "F@ck You Money"?
Seems sub optimal, to say the least.
Last edited by Enscheff; 06-26-2018 at 03:13 PM.
jpx7 (06-26-2018)
But does Costco offer to pay college tuition for people unlikely to go to college and succeed?
If not, he should have went to work at Walmart, the official employer of the South.
Agreed!
It's difficult to peg, but you are right. There are a few highly-ranked guys who went to college instead of signing, but most of them just told teams not to draft them and teams complied. Mike Mussina wasn't a top ten pick after his junior year in college (20th overall) and he likely would have fallen in the same window after high school instead of lasting until the 11th round. Alex Fernandez was drafted 24th overall out of high school, dropped his commitment to a four-year school (Miami if I'm not mistaken), went to JC and vaulted to the fourth overall pick the next year, but that's just about the only one I can remember off the top of my head for whom that happened.
What was Rondon's situation when the Braves drafted him originally and he didn't sign?
Rendon was drafted in the 27th round, went to college, and was then drafted 6th overall.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about guys who passed on Top 10 money, went to college, and got Top 5 money....or even close to Top 5 money.
Got it. I couldn't remember the details... only that he didn't sign.
Rendon's? He wasn't that highly-ranked out of high school. Braves drafted him in the 27th or 28th round and threw some late money at him, but they couldn't sway him from his commitment to Rice. I think what enscheff is driving at is that guys drafted in the first round out of high school and don't take the money usually end up regretting it. Brady Aiken is the latest example. He dropped from 1st overall in 2014 to 17th overall in 2015 and now is out of baseball. Seeing he only dropped 16 slots, he's probably only a millionaire instead of a multi-millionaire, so I'm not crying for him. But he's another guy who overplayed his hand.
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