Machado or MooseTacos deal

[EstebanBugatti]

Markakis
Machado
Freeman
Acuna
Ozzie
Catcher
Swanson
Ender

is what i'd do

Neck
Acuna
Freeman
Machado
Catcher
Ozzie
Swanson
Ender

Would be a much better lineup.

[Enscheff]

Neck
Acuna
Freeman
Machado
Catcher
Ozzie
Swanson
Ender

Would be a much better lineup.

“Much better” is a bit of an over statement. It’s probbaly a reach to claim it’s better you want.

You literally flipped 2 with 4 to get the worse hitter more PAs, and moved Albies down one spot.

Markakis, Machado and Freeman at the top is the correct answer.

[EstebanBugatti]

“Much better” is a bit of an over statement. It’s probbaly a reach to claim it’s better you want.

You literally flipped 2 with 4 to get the worse hitter more PAs, and moved Albies down one spot.

Markakis, Machado and Freeman at the top is the correct answer.

You're completely missing the point of having Machado bat 4th. You're also acting like Acuna is just some scrub. Having Machado bat 4th protects Freeman and puts the best power hitter in a spot to get a lot of RBI's.

[Heyward]

why no talk of Donaldson?

He shouldnt cost as much as Machado does. He's not healthy yet though so trade values down.

[thewupk]

You're completely missing the point of having Machado bat 4th. You're also acting like Acuna is just some scrub. Having Machado bat 4th protects Freeman and puts the best power hitter in a spot to get a lot of RBI's.

You want your best hitters getting the most at bats.

[Southcack77]

why no talk of Donaldson?

He shouldnt cost as much as Machado does. He's not healthy yet though so trade values down.

Donaldson's salary is 23 million or something like that. He very expensive and that matters to the Braves very much. Maybe more than the prospects.

[Carp]

Pass on Donaldson unless it's dirt cheap and they pick up a good chunk of what he's owed.

[EstebanBugatti]

You want your best hitters getting the most at bats.

That is a stupid argument to hit him second. Having him hit 4th would be the best spot. It allows Neck to leadoff and puts a real power threat in the cleanup spot. He will get plenty of ABs. The difference between hitting 2nd, where he'd have less RBIs, and 4th is minimal.

[CyYoung31]

That is a stupid argument to hit him second. Having him hit 4th would be the best spot. It allows Neck to leadoff and puts a real power threat in the cleanup spot. He will get plenty of ABs. The difference between hitting 2nd, where he'd have less RBIs, and 4th is minimal.

You’re correct that the difference over the long haul wouldn’t be much. But, if you’re going to do optimal lineup construction, do it right.

[UNCBlue012]

Who the hell cares. Trout is the best player in the game and hits second 90% if the time.

[AerchAngel]

Donaldson's salary is 23 million or something like that. He very expensive and that matters to the Braves very much. Maybe more than the prospects.

Hard pass on Donaldson. I think he is done, like Ron Cey done or Joey Bats done.

[thewupk]

That is a stupid argument to hit him second. Having him hit 4th would be the best spot. It allows Neck to leadoff and puts a real power threat in the cleanup spot. He will get plenty of ABs. The difference between hitting 2nd, where he'd have less RBIs, and 4th is minimal.

It's not stupid. The opposite actually. You want your best hitter hitting second. RBI's is a pointless individual statistic. What you want is the most runs scored for your team and it's been proven which way is more correct.

[Enscheff]

You're completely missing the point of having Machado bat 4th. You're also acting like Acuna is just some scrub. Having Machado bat 4th protects Freeman and puts the best power hitter in a spot to get a lot of RBI's.

Trust me, I’m not the one missing the point here

[Skeeter31]

It's not stupid. The opposite actually. You want your best hitter hitting second. RBI's is a pointless individual statistic. What you want is the most runs scored for your team and it's been proven which way is more correct.

Exactly. The days of the power hitter hitting in the clean up spot are over. There’s a reason players like trout and judge normally bat in the 2 hole. Over the course of a season the 1 and 2 spots will get more at bats than the 4 spot and having your best hitter get those at bats is what you want.

[Super]

hopefully Allard keeps raising his stock and hopefully he's one of the guys Baltimore loves. i'd deal him in a heartbeat as the centerpiece for Machado, if they would do it.

[clvclv]

hopefully Allard keeps raising his stock and hopefully he's one of the guys Baltimore loves. i'd deal him in a heartbeat as the centerpiece for Machado, if they would do it.

Allard as a centerpiece in a Realmuto deal, Fried as a centerpiece of a Moustakas/Escobar deal, then throw all the money at Machado this winter.

[CJ9]

Allard as a centerpiece in a Realmuto deal, Fried as a centerpiece of a Moustakas/Escobar deal, then throw all the money at Machado this winter.

Allard is nowhere near valuable enough to be the centerpiece for Realmuto.

[Southcack77]

Allard is nowhere near valuable enough to be the centerpiece for Realmuto.

I'd love to get some Arb estimates for Realmuto's last two seasons.

That's on my list of things to become slightly less ignorant of -- estimating arb awards.

What we know about Realmuto's market is that the Marlins have no reason to keep him and he doesn't want to be there. And no one is lining up to meet whatever price they've set on him. It would be weird if Realmuto was the guy they insisted on making a good deal for.

[CyYoung31]

Allard as a centerpiece in a Realmuto deal, Fried as a centerpiece of a Moustakas/Escobar deal, then throw all the money at Machado this winter.

Ignoring the fact that Allard isn’t going to net you Realmuto, please explain to me the rationale of trading valuable prospects for a catcher right now.

[clvclv]

Ignoring the fact that Allard isn’t going to net you Realmuto, please explain to me the rationale of trading valuable prospects for a catcher right now.

He was mentioned above as the centerpiece in a Machado deal - yet I'm the one crawled on?

It's fun to daydream - most folks here take things waaaaay too seriously.

The Catcher tandem is doing a great job, but neither are under contract for next year, and Realmuto upgrades the position for 28 if not 29 teams (you can argue whether he'd even be an upgrade for the Giants). Teams that want to truly contend look to upgrade wherever possible, and acquiring him could provide a double-whammy of sorts when you consider you'd be keeping him away from the other contender consistently linked to him (who happens to reside in your division).