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    With all the cheap talent we have I’d go hard after Machado. If we traded for him at the deadline he would probably enjoy the new park and having other Latin players like Acuna and Albies that are rising stars and young to. That could entice him to make us a serious contender for him to stay, especially if we made the playoffs.

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    I see all the variations of "home town discount" are being tossed around as usual haha.

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    Machado wont take a discount but if there's anyone you give a 10-year deal to a player, it's him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Machado is as low a risk on a 10 year deal as you could hope for.

    Roll those bones!
    IMO he's a much safer bet than Harper. Still it's likely to be a bad deal on the backend as most deals like this are. Would it cripple the Braves if he declines hard in his 30's? Sure. Still would be a fun ride for a few years with him and Freeman back to back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Machado is as low a risk on a 10 year deal as you could hope for.

    Roll those bones!
    Wants to be a SS though. What you do with Swanson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wants to be a SS though. What you do with Swanson?
    3B

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    IMO he's a much safer bet than Harper. Still it's likely to be a bad deal on the backend as most deals like this are. Would it cripple the Braves if he declines hard in his 30's? Sure. Still would be a fun ride for a few years with him and Freeman back to back.
    If you did front load the deal, it's might not be that bad. You'd be paying him like a franchise guy, so you would need him to produce at all all star level.

    Chipper was an injury mess late, but was still producing like an All Star. I don't think Chipper was ever paid like Machado will be, but in any event 36 was Chipper's batting title season in which he played 128 games, for example.

    In addition to an opt out, there is also the chance that you could flip the contract when the deal would start to put too much pressure on payroll.

    I think though that John S's statements about paying too much for free agents probably makes this fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wants to be a SS though. What you do with Swanson?

    I'd tell Machado to shut up and play where the guy paying him 35 million asked him to play, but if he forced the issue, I'd trade Swanson or play him at 3B, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
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    I suppose you could since he's such a dynamic bat, but really makes no sense to play the lesser player defensively at SS.

    Who are the teams that would want him at SS?

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    Lineup with with Machado and Acuna back?

    1. Ozzie
    2. Acuna
    3. Freeman
    4. Machado
    5. Neck
    6. Suzuki/Flowers
    7. Swanson
    8. Ender

    That's one deep freaking lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I suppose you could since he's such a dynamic bat, but really makes no sense to play the lesser player defensively at SS.

    Who are the teams that would want him at SS?
    Oh I know. If someone is going to pay him the contract we expect him to get then he will play where they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Lineup with with Machado and Acuna back?

    1. Ozzie
    2. Acuna
    3. Freeman
    4. Machado
    5. Neck
    6. Suzuki/Flowers
    7. Swanson
    8. Ender

    That's one deep freaking lineup.
    If Markakis bats 5th while Ozzie has an OBP below .300...someone has not been paying attention.

    The correct Top 3 would be Markakis, Machado, Freeman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If Markakis bats 5th while Ozzie has an OBP below .300...someone has not been paying attention.

    The correct Top 3 would be Markakis, Machado, Freeman.
    Must do what the computers say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Lineup with with Machado and Acuna back?

    1. Ozzie
    2. Acuna
    3. Freeman
    4. Machado
    5. Neck
    6. Suzuki/Flowers
    7. Swanson
    8. Ender

    That's one deep freaking lineup.
    Markakis
    Machado
    Freeman
    Acuna
    Ozzie
    Catcher
    Swanson
    Ender

    is what i'd do

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Must do what the computers say.
    Considering they've been right about every single regression candidate and future performance I've commented on the last few years...yeah, I'd listen to them.

    Or they could go with your gut instincts. Care to explore the accuracy of those the last few years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I suppose you could since he's such a dynamic bat, but really makes no sense to play the lesser player defensively at SS.

    Who are the teams that would want him at SS?
    Worked for the Yanks with Jeter and A-Roid.

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    Paul: If you were in Anthopoulos’ position, how would you handle the trade deadline?
    Keith Law: If you think you can trade some pitching surplus for major-league help, consider it – they do have a few more arms than they can use in the majors right now, and there are guys like Wright, Wilson, Anderson coming fast. But I wouldn’t go all in, or try to trade for someone like Machado … fans pushing for that are delusional on several levels, not least how much impact one player might have in two months.


    up your nose with a rubber hose, Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Paul: If you were in Anthopoulos’ position, how would you handle the trade deadline?
    Keith Law: If you think you can trade some pitching surplus for major-league help, consider it – they do have a few more arms than they can use in the majors right now, and there are guys like Wright, Wilson, Anderson coming fast. But I wouldn’t go all in, or try to trade for someone like Machado … fans pushing for that are delusional on several levels, not least how much impact one player might have in two months.


    up your nose with a rubber hose, Law.

    Crime dog would like to meet you outside the gym at 3 klaw. He wants to tell you something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Considering they've been right about every single regression candidate and future performance I've commented on the last few years...yeah, I'd listen to them.

    Or they could go with your gut instincts. Care to explore the accuracy of those the last few years?
    Every single one huh? It’s amazing you don’t have a job in Major League Baseball with how smart you are.

    Analytics are a huge part of baseball and baseball’s future, but they don’t know everything and they don’t always paint the entire picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Every single one huh? It’s amazing you don’t have a job in Major League Baseball with how smart you are.

    Analytics are a huge part of baseball and baseball’s future, but they don’t know everything and they don’t always paint the entire picture.
    Yes, every single one.

    I’m more than willing to put my record of projections and predictions up against yours any day.

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