THURSDAY MINORS FINAL 6/14/18: Aces Dealing Today

[thewupk]

Prospect writer is Dave Stewart

low blow

[bravesfanMatt]

Some of these "writers" work at Bobs Big Weeny. I sit next to or get to talk to numerous scouts or knowledgeable people at least. Literally no one has had a report this half-azz. Touki is not all the way there, but his curve is devastating...Stewart now owns the curveball crown, but Touki's is unreal.

Prospect fatigue?

He eliminated himself by just talking about his fastball. Three keys to a good fastball. Velocity, movement and location. If a pitcher is going to have two then touki has the right two. This guy should be immediately fired by his clubs gm for posting that garbage. I don’t care who it was about.

[50PoundHead]

Looks like Rome is the first-half champ in the SAL. Congrats.

[Super]

He eliminated himself by just talking about his fastball. Three keys to a good fastball. Velocity, movement and location. If a pitcher is going to have two then touki has the right two. This guy should be immediately fired by his clubs gm for posting that garbage. I don’t care who it was about.

it was a "prospect writer."
could've been me or you with a blog.

[Super]

So basically this guy is saying touki’s FB has velocity and life but. Um. Yeah that is what a good FB should have. Dumbass.

"doesn't miss bats in the zone" = 10 Ks.

[bravesguy]

"doesn't miss bats in the zone" = 10 Ks.

In all fairness, he could be striking them out looking. If we can measure called strikes vs. swing & miss strikes, is there a stat for fooled them on the pitch (whether they were fooled and watched it or were fooled and swang foolishly)

[msstate7]

Allard k9 at 6.12 this season. Steamer projects 7.01 though.

His FIP is 3.37 at 75 ip. Pretty impressive for a 20-year-old at AAA

[Southcack77]

Allard k9 at 6.12 this season. Steamer projects 7.01 though.

His FIP is 3.37 at 75 ip. Pretty impressive for a 20-year-old at AAA

At this point he’s as reasonable a chance as Teheran.

And much cheaper.

[Super]

At this point he’s as reasonable a chance as Teheran.

And much cheaper.

cheaper doesn't really have relevance here tho.

[Tapate50]

"doesn't miss bats in the zone" = 10 Ks.

Neither does Folty

[Deester11]

In all fairness, he could be striking them out looking. If we can measure called strikes vs. swing & miss strikes, is there a stat for fooled them on the pitch (whether they were fooled and watched it or were fooled and swang foolishly)

In the age of over stats though, does it really matter? If a batter is fooled enough to be called out on strikes or doesn't offer at it, is not the pitchers fault. That lazy azz writer probably doesn't even realize that even umpires are fooled by Touki's curve. His fastball has plenty of movement and flattens when he tries to guide it. There. Scouting report done.

Btw...same post almost. Ha

[IslandBrave]

"doesn't miss bats in the zone" = 10 Ks.

And he’s leading the southern league in Ks.

[Southcack77]

cheaper doesn't really have relevance here tho.

It would if you could give Teheran away. Which the Braves absolutely should do if they can.

[50PoundHead]

It would if you could give Teheran away. Which the Braves absolutely should do if they can.

According to one poster, we should be able to get one of the Angels' top three prospects for him.

[Deester11]

It would if you could give Teheran away. Which the Braves absolutely should do if they can.

Same tune...although at this point I agree.

[Super]

It would if you could give Teheran away. Which the Braves absolutely should do if they can.

true, just don't have much hope for that.

[Southcack77]

true, just don't have much hope for that.

I do wonder if some team wouldn't mind that salary just for the innings with the chance that maybe he is a little better than average at that salary.

[Super]

I do wonder if some team wouldn't mind that salary just for the innings with the chance that maybe he is a little better than average at that salary.

i think we'd have to include a prospect for someone to take back the salary at this point.

[Enscheff]

Disagree wholeheartedly! It's dumb even thinking about it UNTIL he shows he can't be a starter. The clown who wrote that takes one start that was more than decent to assess that? I've seen him enough to think he's not bullpen material just yet. Maybe in a couple of years but the Touki you're seeing now is good.

Consider the source of the idea...

You're right. It is beyond stupid to stick a 22 year old in the MLB BP after only giving him 200 IP at AA.

[bravesfanMatt]

Touki is slowly arching the prospect improvement curve. It is just hard to notice.

IP. Era. BB/9. K/9. Whip.
2014. 28.2. 8.48. 5.7. 10. 1.95
2015. 87.2. 4.83. 4.9. 6.9. 1.357
2016. 132.1. 3.88. 4.8 8.7. 1.333
2017. 145. 4.53. 4. 10.4. 1.345
2018. 74. 3.41. 3.8. 11.2. 1.216

So he has improved his K rate while steadily dropping his walks. His era and whip are finally catching up. Why would anyone want to give up on a 21 year old prospect who is literally getting better every year.