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    Roger McDowell's Future?

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    If we lose McDowell we're gonna be in trouble.

    Have to keep him at all costs there isn't a more important coach to this team. We can can or quit anyone else but not McDowell. If we lose McDowell we should fire the whole staff.
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    Why would Roger make a lateral move to Philly? Mgr job I can see, but he's not in the running for any of them. Philly pitching coach? makes no sense to me.

    If its money, give him a raise. Or have him chat with Leo Mazzone.

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    Easy solution here. Make him our next manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    If we lose McDowell we're gonna be in trouble.
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    I thought that as well when Leo left....


    Appreceate what hes done but braves can endure post him too.

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    He's really done a nice job. Seems to work with each guy individually and is able to help a broad range of guys.

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    Mazzone had the rock, McDowell has the hands in the backpocket skip off the dugout step.
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    McDowell wouldn't be a good manager. Pitchers don't make good managers. Eddie Perez on the other hand.......

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    They should offer Roger half of Fredi's salary. He's probably the mvp of the team.

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    How many pitching coaches sprint out of the dugout like McDowell? That alone deserves a pay increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    McDowell wouldn't be a good manager. Pitchers don't make good managers. Eddie Perez on the other hand.......
    Pitchers don't make good managers? What about John Farrell? Bud Black?

    I think this article sums up the pitching coach to manager thing well

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...rticleid=12335

    And I think that the last paragraph summarizes why so often pitching coaches aren't promoted

    " By declining to “promote” their pitching coaches, perhaps teams are simply acknowledging the vital nature of their duties. If a pitching coach succeeds in his original role, he may offer his team the greatest possible value by continuing in that capacity. From a utilitarian perspective, would you rather have Duncan fiddling with lineups and giving injury updates to roving packs of beat writers, or teaching Joel Pineiro how to throw a sinker? The pitching coach’s job requires more specialized knowledge than the manager’s, and once acquired, that expertise is probably better off being put to use in the a position that permits it to make the greatest impact. Of course, that interpretation may come as small comfort to some of the baseball lifers bringing home pitching coach-sized salaries. Should Farrell succeed in his new, more lucrative role, he won’t be breaking untrodden ground, but he will be joining a rather exclusive group. "

    So maybe you're gonna see with McDowell a pitching coach who's compensated like a manager. I would be all for it. McDowell is more important to the Braves than Fredi. I would not have said the same thing about Cox and Leo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    How many pitching coaches sprint out of the dugout like McDowell? That alone deserves a pay increase.
    I've been timing him. His speed to the mound has actually improved the last couple years. Very impressive at his age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I've been timing him. His speed to the mound has actually improved the last couple years. Very impressive at his age.
    It's weird though, his running technique. Very stiff upper body, almost no pendulum arm swinging. Very short strides though.
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    I remember at one time when everyone hated McDowell. Good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bye Week View Post
    I remember at one time when everyone hated McDowell. Good times.
    I didn't. I believe I recited the line about chicken salad and fowl feces more than a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I didn't. I believe I recited the line about chicken salad and fowl feces more than a few times.
    I didn't say you did. "Everyone" was just a word to get my point across.

    Scout melted down when we hired Roger to replace Leo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bye Week View Post
    I didn't say you did. "Everyone" was just a word to get my point across.

    Scout melted down when we hired Roger to replace Leo.
    That was a fun time. Everyone was freaking out and screaming "EDWIN JACKSON!!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    That was a fun time. Everyone was freaking out and screaming "EDWIN JACKSON!!!!"
    I'm pretty sure you were in that boat but it was so long ago.

    Leo basically walked on water with most fans. It was ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    If we lose McDowell we're gonna be in trouble.

    Have to keep him at all costs there isn't a more important coach to this team. We can can or quit anyone else but not McDowell. If we lose McDowell we should fire the whole staff.
    I think you're underestimating the value TP brings with his don't take **** from nobody big bully approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    I think you're underestimating the value TP brings with his don't take **** from nobody big bully approach.
    He has been known to spit on players who challenge his instruction.

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