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    Hand on the move... to Cleveland

    Appears the Indians have come to a deal to acquire Brad Hand of the Padres. No word on the return yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Appears the Indians have come to a deal to acquire Brad Hand of the Padres. No word on the return yet.
    He should be the most expensive reliever on the market. Interested to see what they gave up
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    And Cimber for Mejia. Two really good RPs with lots of control

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    Welp, at least the Phillies didn't get Hand or Machado
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    And Cimber for Mejia. Two really good RPs with lots of control
    Did the Braves need relief help?

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    Hmm. Tribe scored 2 relievers that they control for a long time.
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    I saw that the Padres wanted Rafael Devers for Brad Hand at one point. I think they simply wanted a youngster that was ready to play in the major leagues.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Wow, the Indians needed RP help, but that is a huge price to pay. Hand is good, but he's not Andrew Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Did the Braves need relief help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Wow, the Indians needed RP help, but that is a huge price to pay. Hand is good, but he's not Andrew Miller.
    the indians don't see mejia as a catcher. his bat doesn't profile nearly as well anywhere else.
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    Wow, giving up consensus top 10 prospect for relievers is a terrible idea. Especially with quality options like Familia, Rodney, Soria, and others still available. Grade F for the Indians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    the indians don't see mejia as a catcher. his bat doesn't profile nearly as well anywhere else.
    Unless other teams didn't value him highly, then it still was a terrible trade from a value standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Wow, the Indians needed RP help, but that is a huge price to pay. Hand is good, but he's not Andrew Miller.
    I usually prefer these deals for the team receiving the prospects. But Cimber has been lights out and has 5 more years of team control after this one. I like this one for the Indians. It is very close to an even swap, ie no contender's premium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Unless other teams didn't value him highly, then it still was a terrible trade from a value standpoint.
    he's only a "consensus top 10 prospect" because he's classified as a catcher. most people don't think he's capable of catching. that would ding his prospect value tremendously.
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    This is precisely the type of move I want AA to avoid at all costs. BP arms are simply too volatile to invest this heavily into them.

    The Padres turned a waiver claim into one of the best position prospects in the game. Well done on their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    he's only a "consensus top 10 prospect" because he's classified as a catcher. most people don't think he's capable of catching. that would ding his prospect value tremendously.
    Doesn't matter, his value is what it is. If Mejia was available, they could have gotten quite a bit more.

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    Likely takes care of their interest in Mychal Givens.

    Wonder if AA night try to play for Britton AND Givens since the Orioles appear to look like they're interested in quantity over quality. Givens' peripherals are still strong, and he's under control through 2021.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    he's only a "consensus top 10 prospect" because he's classified as a catcher. most people don't think he's capable of catching. that would ding his prospect value tremendously.
    Who is "most people." Certainly not the people who are putting together these prospect lists. If other GMs, don't value him highly, maybe that changes things. There isn't really any indication that's the case though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Who is "most people." Certainly not the people who are putting together these prospect lists. If other GMs, don't value him highly, maybe that changes things. There isn't really any indication that's the case though.
    I don't know about baseball analysts, but it seems like a lot of Indians' fans do not believe he can be a big league catcher. Reading some of their boards and they are really really really happy with the deal. They also believe he has an attitude problem as he had been reluctant to play outfield for them.

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    Not a bad move given how much this helps the Indians. The Padres system is STACKED.

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