7/20... 2nd half begins - Nats game 1

[msstate7]

I know the thing I’m looking for in a player is how well his teammates do getting on base in front of him. Tells me all I need to know about his ability to hit.

Just looking at this season, I'm not surprised his RBI total is low. He walks at 18.7% and k's at 24.9%. In 43.6% of his PAs this season, he doesn't put a ball in play. When he doesn't k, walk, or hit HR, his babip is .229

[cajunrevenge]

I know the thing I’m looking for in a player is how well his teammates do getting on base in front of him. Tells me all I need to know about his ability to hit.

its mostly a statement about his durability. No reason to expect better health going forward and he is already a bad on defense.

[Super]

But I've about given up on Dansby ever becoming an above average hitter

he's 24.

[sturg33]

he's 24.

Thanks

[Super]

Thanks

no problem! patience is pretty important with young players and giving up on one becoming even an average hitter when he's just 24 is a little silly.
simmons became an average hitter at age 27. a good hitter at age 28.

[Super]

dansby will easily have seasons where he's average or above with the bat.

[UNCBlue012]

dansby will easily have seasons where he's average or above with the bat.

Agreed. He likely won't ever be a terrific slider hitter, but he'll have above-average seasons here and there. His defense is where his true value lies.

[sturg33]

no problem! patience is pretty important with young players and giving up on one becoming even an average hitter when he's just 24 is a little silly.
simmons became an average hitter at age 27. a good hitter at age 28.

Sure.. but theyre not similar hitters and you can look no further than their K rate

Swanson will never be good unless he drops his k rate substantially or increases his power substantially. I haven't seen any indicators of that happening, have you?

[Super]

Sure.. but theyre not similar hitters and you can look no further than their K rate

Swanson will never be good unless he drops his k rate substantially or increases his power substantially. I haven't seen any indicators of that happening, have you?

did simmons show signs of improving his power before he did? it happens all the time. especially when a player is just 24.
swanson has already improved his power from last year a good bit. he's also improved as a hitter by a huge amount from last year. so yes, we've already seen improvement. i'd like to point out that he's 24 years old.

[Super]

the impatience of fans is always funny to me. if the player isn't a stud out the gate so many draw silly conclusions.

[sturg33]

I don't know why you're getting so offended here... I'm simply looking at the data and his batting profile and he will never be a good hitter striking out 25% of the time. Last I checked his k rate is worse this year than last, and hes also being protected by batting 8th which inflates his walk rate.

I very much want him to be a stud. I just don't see it happening

[Super]

I don't know why you're getting so offended here... I'm simply looking at the data and his batting profile and he will never be a good hitter striking out 25% of the time. Last I checked his k rate is worse this year than last, and hes also being protected by batting 8th which inflates his walk rate.

I very much want him to be a stud. I just don't see it happening

again, i think it's silly to draw conclusions about a player who's 24 years old and in his 2nd full season in the majors who has already shown overall improvement, even if it's not in the k and bb areas. saying "i don't see it happening" based on what we know is premature.

[sturg33]

again, i think it's silly to draw conclusions about a player who's 24 years old and in his 2nd full season in the majors who has already shown overall improvement, even if it's not in the k and bb areas. saying "i don't see it happening" based on what we know is premature.

What fun would the board be if we didn't make predictions?

[thewupk]

Sturg is right in that Swanson's K% is what will determine the type of hitter he will be. It was discussed when he first came up and it still holds true today. The fact that he's regressed there isn't the best of signs.

[Super]

Sturg is right in that Swanson's K% is what will determine the type of hitter he will be. It was discussed when he first came up and it still holds true today. The fact that he's regressed there isn't the best of signs.

however, he's improved as a hitter this year with the k-rate going up.
i obviously agree that he won't be much of a hitter at his current rate of striking out.
but he's plenty young and in his 2nd full season. guys do improve.

[thewupk]

however, he's improved as a hitter this year with the k-rate going up.
i obviously agree that he won't be much of a hitter at his current rate of striking out.
but he's plenty young and in his 2nd full season. guys do improve.

right. but those aren't things that will continue to improve to get him to be a league avg or better hitter. for hitters that profile like Swanson it's going to be the K%. And as long as pitchers know how to throw a slider it's going to be an issue with him. some players have obvious holes in their swing that aren't really identified until they face major league pitching. this will be a constant concern with him.