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    Lightbulb WEDNESDAY MINORS REPORT 7/25/18; Toussaint serves notice to MLB

    WEDNESDAY MINORS RESULTS
    All Times Eastern

    CLASS AAA


    Gwinnett 5 Lehigh Valley 0

    WP: Toussaint (2-0) 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 8 K
    Webb 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

    Franco 2-3, HR (13th), 2 RBI, SB
    Marte 2-5, HR (2nd), RBI
    Riley 2-4, 2 R, BB
    Santana 2-5, R, SB (he's back)

    CLASS AA

    Mobile 1, Mississippi 0

    LP: Wright (6-8) 8 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, HR (93 total pitches) (only run in 5th)
    Burrows 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

    Lockhart 1-3, BB, SB
    Didder 1-3 (only two Miss. hits)
    Cumberland 0-3 (AA debut)
    Note: Mobile had lost 12 straight

    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Game One
    Charlotte @ Florida (43-54) (DH), ppd.

    CLASS A

    Rome 7, Columbia 2

    SP: Rangel 5.2 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
    Bacon 1.1 IP, zeroes
    WP: Dyals (BS, 4-1) 2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

    Venter 1-4, 2B
    Lugbauer 1-4, 2B, 2 RBI
    Contreras 2-4, 2B, 2 R
    Graffanino 2-4, R (.326)
    Jenista 2-3, 2 R, 2B, RBI (.313)
    Encarnacion 1-4, 2B, R, RBI

    SHORT-SEASON

    GCL Braves 9, GCL Phillies 4

    WP: Volquez (1-2) 5 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
    Aquino 1 IP, zeroes
    Polanco (Save, 3) 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

    Ovando 2-5, R, 2 RBI
    Harris 3-4, 2 R, 2 2B, RBI, 2 BB
    Mateja 2-3, R, RBI (.389)
    Brown 2-6, 2B, R, 2 RBI

    --------------

    Danville 7, Kingsport 6 (10)

    SP: Lawson 2 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
    Gamez 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K
    Higginbotham 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, HR
    Welsh 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
    WP: Seipel (1-0) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K

    Benson 3-4, HR (2nd), 3 RBI
    Dean 0-5, 4 K
    Shumpert 1-5, HR (1st), RBI
    Cullen 2-4, R, BB
    Quintero 1-3, RBI

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    DSL Athletics 5, DSL Braves 1

    LP: Alelsandro 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K (0.96)
    L. Diaz 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

    A.Bautista 1-4, RBI
    Palma 1-3,
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    Very interesting pitching lineup today

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Very interesting pitching lineup today
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    Florida was PPD Monday, scheduled a DH on Tuesday. Then the second game of the DH was PPD. Now today's DH is PPD.

    Get out of the Florida State League, please.

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    Yeah, I'm not a Florida native but every time I've been down there in the summer it's seemingly storming in the afternoon or there's a chance.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Touki

    5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 SO

    60 pitches

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    Quote Originally Posted by ball4life32 View Post
    Touki

    5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 SO

    60 pitches
    As everyone here has probably surmised from my posts, I'm in the Ernest and Julio Gallo school ("We serve no wine until it's time") when it comes to prospects, Toussaint is making a strong case to join the big league team at some point this year. He has to go on the 40-man over the winter anyway, so there's really no roster issue. He's still a work in progress when it comes to the walks, but his strike-to-ball ratio has really improved this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    As everyone here has probably surmised from my posts, I'm in the Ernest and Julio Gallo school ("We serve no wine until it's time") when it comes to prospects, Toussaint is making a strong case to join the big league team at some point this year. He has to go on the 40-man over the winter anyway, so there's really no roster issue. He's still a work in progress when it comes to the walks, but his strike-to-ball ratio has really improved this year.
    I love Touki and if he can maintain a 3.6-3.8 walk rate here in the majors I would be satisfied with that. I think he has the stuff to succeed at this level with that walk rate. If it jumps any higher than that though he may have some struggles. The guy is still incredibly young and I think he is the highest upside pitcher in the organization. If I had a midseason top 100, he would probably be the highest ranked pitcher in the organization right now. Definitely in my top 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ball4life32 View Post
    Touki

    5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 SO

    60 pitches
    7 innings, 2 hits, 0 R, 4 BB (meh), 8 K.


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    Touki is better than anyone we can trade for bullpen wise right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Touki is better than anyone we can trade for bullpen wise right now.
    I was on board with putting him in the pen, but with our starting issues, I might just stick him in the rotation at this point.

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    Touki

    8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 8 SO

    Riley 2-4 BB (No K’s last two games)

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    Touki has had a nice steady climb through the majors. Everyone needs to slow down and let him continue that development. No need to rush. September call up. Spring invite. Then see from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    As everyone here has probably surmised from my posts, I'm in the Ernest and Julio Gallo school ("We serve no wine until it's time") when it comes to prospects, Toussaint is making a strong case to join the big league team at some point this year. He has to go on the 40-man over the winter anyway, so there's really no roster issue. He's still a work in progress when it comes to the walks, but his strike-to-ball ratio has really improved this year.
    Agreed on all counts. Touki providing reason to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Touki has had a nice steady climb through the majors. Everyone needs to slow down and let him continue that development. No need to rush. September call up. Spring invite. Then see from there.
    This. I agree. He's consistently improved, and it's been impressive, but he needs to continue that development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ball4life32 View Post
    Touki

    8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 8 SO

    Riley 2-4 BB (No K’s last two games)
    Touki line is misleading to how his control was. He was just missing in the 6-7th which resulted in 3 of his walks. Not sure if tired or K hunting. But to go 8 innings with 8 Ks and 4 walks on ~105 pitches is rather efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Touki line is misleading to how his control was. He was just missing in the 6-7th which resulted in 3 of his walks. Not sure if tired or K hunting. But to go 8 innings with 8 Ks and 4 walks on ~105 pitches is rather efficient.
    And Touki is 22. Control issues with a 22 year old are much different than control issues with a 25 year old.

    He threw 145 IP last year, so he should be good for 180+ this year. He's around 105 right now with 5-6 more AAA starts to go. That should put him around 140-150 IP in September, which means he will have innings to burn in 2018.

    Do the Braves want to start the clock of a 22 year old pitcher? If they are in playoff contention and have a need, you betcha.

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    If the Braves are still in playoff contention by then in August, I'd like to see Touki up before September to make him eligible for the playoff roster. Like maybe call him up the last week of August 5 days after his last start from there. And let him get 2 innings at a time from then, hopefully not in games that are not in doubt.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    If the Braves are still in playoff contention by then in August, I'd like to see Touki up before September to make him eligible for the playoff roster. Like maybe call him up the last week of August 5 days after his last start from there. And let him get 2 innings at a time from then, hopefully not in games that are not in doubt.
    I think we established the other day that, as long as we put him on the 40 man before Sept. 1st, he would be eligible for the playoffs regardless of when we call him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    This. I agree. He's consistently improved, and it's been impressive, but he needs to continue that development.
    If we weren't in playoff contention, I would agree. But given that we are competitive and we have a clear need for pitching, I think Touki should be coming up at some point this year.

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