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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    It’s all good. A vet with good stuff on the cheap and oh yeah....it’s Venters.

    This is a very good example of the type of moves to make. Clear out the Wisler and Sims of the world. Makes about three more trades like this one.
    yup...he will help us
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    Our pen has totally collapsed the last 6 weeks or so. It's by far our biggest need. We've lost 11 of our past 16 and a huge part of the reason for that is the pen turning close games into laughers and not giving us a chance to get back into it.

    This is not a flashy trade but the difference between a Sam Freeman and a Venters is huge. We need to add at least 2 more relievers, maybe 3, with one of them being a high leverage guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Didnt Venters teach a pitch to Jurrjens one year when Jair had a ridiculously good first half of the season? Maybe Ventere could teach it to some of these prospects.
    If I remember correctly, the Venters way of throwing a sinker became popular with several pitchers while he was here.
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    Not that it may matter, but Venters is under contract through the 2019 season, so Atlanta could choose to him have through next season if they wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I expected the Braves to get a cheap LHP, and this is about as cheap as it gets lol.
    Plus it looks like he is under arbitration control this off-season!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    If I remember correctly, the Venters way of throwing a sinker became popular with several pitchers while he was here.
    I think he had some influence on Alex Wood.
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    Venters was destroyed with the Rays stupidly started him for one game. Remove that and his numbers look even better.

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    I actually think this is a really good move for us. We need to make another move, or two, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Plus it looks like he is under arbitration control this off-season!
    I will freely admit that I don't know exactly how this works, but it appears he was released and declared a free agent some time ago. I didn't think that signing a free agent came with any sort of service time control.

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    This is a great move. One I mentioned earlier last week as he was in a rehab game.
    I wouldn’t run him out there like Sam Freeman everyday, but he will help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I will freely admit that I don't know exactly how this works, but it appears he was released and declared a free agent some time ago. I didn't think that signing a free agent came with any sort of service time control.
    You live and learn. The player's union at least ought to look into this one. Getting released and still being under control for the next team after missing 4 years to injury. Poor Venters.

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    Tony Sipp was released by the Padres in May 2014 when he had between four and five years of Major League service time. The left-hander subsequently signed a guaranteed Major League contract with the Astros that ran through the end of the '14 campaign. Because he finished the season with less than six years of Major League service time, Sipp was eligible for salary arbitration as opposed to free agency. Sipp qualified as a free agent following the 2015 season and re-signed with the Astros on a three-year deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I will freely admit that I don't know exactly how this works, but it appears he was released and declared a free agent some time ago. I didn't think that signing a free agent came with any sort of service time control.
    it does if he is under 6 years service time
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    You just know that as soon as Venters heard about this deal he felt a little twinge in that left elbow. Fredi and to a lesser extent Bobby damn near killed that poor guy.

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    We were told by Fat Ben that the Braves would be able to trade international pool money for prospects better than Waters.

    Instead, they trade it for the ghost of Venters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkPiggler View Post
    You just know that as soon as Venters heard about this deal he felt a little twinge in that left elbow. Fredi and to a lesser extent Bobby damn near killed that poor guy.
    I think he's happy to come back to Atlanta. He's going to scour the old Turner Field site to look for the parts of his arm that Bobby and Fredi sawed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I think he's happy to come back to Atlanta. He's going to scour the old Turner Field site to look for the parts of his arm that Bobby and Fredi sawed off.
    Actually there is a shrine in the bullpen composed of those parts. If you see him burning some incense tonight, you will know what is happening.
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    Cards reportedly releasing Holland - wonder if AA takes a look to see if they think they can fix him to try to pick up another piece on the cheap.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    He's going to scour the old Turner Field site to look for the parts of his arm that Bobby and Fredi sawed off.
    What is dead may never die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    What is dead may never die.
    I mean, my dude is basically a human brain wired to a bucket of cadaver ligaments. With a hell of a sinker. Zombie Venters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Cards reportedly releasing Holland - wonder if AA takes a look to see if they think they can fix him to try to pick up another piece on the cheap.
    Has our coaches fixed any pitchers?
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