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    In some ways it's simply bad luck for Sam Freeman. In other ways, it's teams learning they can put the bat on the shoulder against him and wait for him to get in trouble.

    The Dodgers scouting report for him was literally "Let him do the work for you".
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Relievers are very volatile. The ups and downs from Freeman are not unusual.
    This. Closers and elite set men can be stable, most if the rest vary widely from year to year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    Overuse like Freeman got can ruin a season, but even when good he walked too many at times. Add what snit did and you get an even wilder Freeman, overuse will do that.
    The overuse was basically a function of the way the pen was constructed. It happened during a stretch when Minter and Freeman were the only lefties in the pen. Combine that with 4 righties in the starting rotation, and its a formula for a lot of abuse for your one lefty reliever who isn't a late inning guy. Once Biddle was called up, the usage pattern improved a lot. And it will be even better with Venters available.
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    Back to back walks; can't leave him in the game. We're technically still in this (even with the prospect of facing Jansen) but we lose what ever slight chance we have if Freeman implodes again.

    Staying with Sam. smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The overuse basically a function of the way the pen was constructed. It happened during a stretch when Minter and Freeman were the only lefties in the pen. Combine that with 4 righties in the starting rotation, and its a formula for a lot of abuse for your one lefty reliever who isn't a late inning guy.
    Even when snit didnt use him he had him warming up, reminded me of how Fredi ruined some very good relievers

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    Still convinced that Sam giving up 3 or more runs this inning still won't get him the boot.

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    A low lob wedge? I think Joe's getting his golf metaphors confused.

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    We've gotta get rid of Sam Freeman. He's so bad.

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    If Venters was a thought to pitch the 9th inning, why didn't he just start the inning? Freeman is what he is at this point, and I don't think anything is going to change with him in the next 2 months.

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    Snitker's going to break Venters by the middle of next month, great. And in case you're curious, I'd have put Carle in for that inning.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    I might be the only person here who isnt in a hurry to get rid of Sam. Snitker has pretty much ruined him.
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    Is that Venters coming in? That's crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    We've gotta get rid of Sam Freeman. He's so bad.
    Freeman must have kidnapped one of Snit's family members or have incriminating photos of AA or something. How else do you explain his being on the roster?

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    I already said I'd not use Venters back to back, what does snit do? This proves my point, snit is a complete moron. Poor Jonny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Is that Venters coming in? That's crazy.
    Nice while it lasted Jonny, see ya if you make it off the DL again. His named is Snit not Fredi btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    I already said I'd not use Venters back to back, what does snit do? This proves my point, snit is a complete moron. Poor Jonny!
    Seriously. I think Biddle threw fewer pitches than Venters last night. Why not him. But really should have left Freeman in to take his lumps.
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    Snitker should've just left Sam to in to finish the inning ala Collmenter when he gave up like 6 runs in an extra inning game. You'd think that would push AA further to make a move.

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    Can we trade the manager at the deadline for some prospects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    I might be the only person here who isnt in a hurry to get rid of Sam. Snitker has pretty much ruined him.
    I'd 10 day DL him and that should've happened a looooonnnnngggggg time ago. He's not this bad, and I think he was broken, and now Snitker is trying to break Venters. I'm in the middle of posting about something I'm thinking about for next year over on braves-nation and would include Venters as "lefty specialist", but I'm not sure why when Snitker is just going to break him.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    We suck. Can't hit worth a freaking lick. And our bullpen, JAC, it's terrible.

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