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    WEDNESDAY AUGUST 1ST MINORS FINAL: 9+ no-hit innings in FLA

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    Atlanta promoted top-100 prospects Cristian Pache and Drew Waters to Double-A Mississippi and Class A Advanced Florida, respectively, on Wednesday as a big day for transactions in the Braves organization. No. 13 prospect Bryse Wilson also got the bump to Gwinnett while No. 29 Josh Graham moved with Pache to Mississippi and No. 12 William Contreras also got the boost to Florida.


    WEDNESDAY MINORS RESULTS
    All Times Eastern

    CLASS AAA

    Game One
    Durham @ Gwinnett (50-57), dh, PPD.

    CLASS AA

    Suspended Game
    Birmingham 2, Mississippi 1

    SP: Sanchez 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K
    LP: Pike (0-3) 3.1 IP, 1 H, 0 ER(2 R), 2 BB, 2 K
    Brothers 2.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

    Martinez 2-3, 2B, BB
    Downes 1-4, RBI
    Salazar 1-3

    Scheduled Game

    Mississippi 1, Birmingham 0 (7)

    SP: Johnstone 3.2 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K
    WP: Graham (4-2) 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K
    Clouse (Save, 5) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

    Neslony 1-3, 2B
    Marlette 1-3, rBI
    Pache 2-2 (debut)

    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Charlotte 6, Florida 3 (12)
    Scoreless thru 9th!

    SP: Anderson 7.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (100 pitches)
    Kelly 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER(1R), 1 BB, 1 K
    LP: White (1-3) 2 IP, 5 H, 3 ER(5R), 3 BB, 1 K

    Delgado 2-5, RBI
    Schwartz 2-5, 2B, RBI, SB
    Davidson 0-3, BB, 2 K (hitting .180, committed 10th error)

    CLASS A

    Greensboro @ Rome (57-50), DH, cancelled, no makeup

    SHORT-SEASON

    GCL Braves 1, GCL Yankees 1 (4th, suspended)

    SP: Santos 3 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

    Harris 1-1, HR (1st), RBI, BB, SB
    De Hoyos 1-2

    -----

    Princeton @ Danville, (21-18), PPD.

    ---------------

    DSL Braves 1, DSL Royals 0

    SP: Ascenio 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K
    WP: Caminero (1-2) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K
    C.De La Cruz (Save, 2) 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

    Mezquita 0-3, RBI, SB
    Stevens 0-2, R, BB, SB
    (Only two hits for Braves)
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    Waters and Contreras might be going to A+.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    Waters and Contreras might be going to A+.
    Why? Want to limit their games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl View Post
    Waters and Contreras might be going to A+.
    Pache just posted a video on social media from the Atlanta airport. Maybe he’s going to Mississippi?

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    And Pache just posted his jersey on Instagram. He’s been promoted to Double A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    And Pache just posted his jersey on Instagram. He’s been promoted to Double A.
    Good for him, but it does seem a little rushed, despite Anthopoulos’ protestations otherwise re prospects.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    C.J. Alexander back in the Danville lineup.

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    Anyone think they're setting Pache up to go to the AFL?

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    All these promotions feel like where they’ll start next year — Waters and contreras at Florida, Pache at Mississippi and Bryse Wilson/Kyle Wright at Gwinnett. I like the idea of giving them a month there to end the minor league season and get their feet wet at that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Good for him, but it does seem a little rushed, despite Anthopoulos’ protestations otherwise re prospects.
    Yep. AA doing what he criticized coppy for

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Good for him, but it does seem a little rushed, despite Anthopoulos’ protestations otherwise re prospects.
    He didn't really protest or claim much of anything, though. He was speaking of Acuna and said he wouldn't have promoted him so aggressively, which was almost certainly for the sole reason of offering a defense of himself not putting him in the majors to start the year. Based on that, everyone just started assuming he wouldn't promote as aggressively.

    I like aggressive promotion, provided it isn't rushed or insane. Pache played very well for a full season in Rome and close to 100 games in Florida. I'd say he's ready to be tested in AA. The correlation of age and level makes me prefer aggressive promotion over the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    He didn't really protest or claim much of anything, though. He was speaking of Acuna and said he wouldn't have promoted him so aggressively, which was almost certainly for the sole reason of offering a defense of himself not putting him in the majors to start the year. Based on that, everyone just started assuming he wouldn't promote as aggressively.

    I like aggressive promotion, provided it isn't rushed or insane. Pache played very well for a full season in Rome and close to 100 games in Florida. I'd say he's ready to be tested in AA. The correlation of age and level makes me prefer aggressive promotion over the opposite.
    I’m generally in favor of somewhat aggressive promotion, amongst the minor league levels, for a few reasons. But I’m not sure Pache had shown enough, specifically, to warrant it: consistently hitting around .280 with garbage obp and much improved, but still light, power doesn’t scream “promotion” to me. I’ve been on the Pache since last year, but he seems like he needs to be brought along a little more slowly to grow with the bat.

    Nonetheless, I like the idea that the org is setting up prospects for their initial 2019 assignments. There’s some intelligence to that sort of schedule, for sure. And anything that gets legit prospects out of Florida League inactivity is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I’m generally in favor of somewhat aggressive promotion, amongst the minor league levels, for a few reasons. But I’m not sure Pache had shown enough, specifically, to warrant it: consistently hitting around .280 with garbage obp and much improved, but still light, power doesn’t scream “promotion” to me. I’ve been on the Pache since last year, but he seems like he needs to be brought along a little more slowly to grow with the bat.

    Nonetheless, I like the idea that the org is setting up prospects for their initial 2019 assignments. There’s some intelligence to that sort of schedule, for sure. And anything that gets legit prospects out of Florida League inactivity is a good thing.
    Rainouts play a part in consideration? Regardless, thank God, I actually have a prospect to go watch in Mississippi now. Think I'll go soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I’m generally in favor of somewhat aggressive promotion, amongst the minor league levels, for a few reasons. But I’m not sure Pache had shown enough, specifically, to warrant it: consistently hitting around .280 with garbage obp and much improved, but still light, power doesn’t scream “promotion” to me. I’ve been on the Pache since last year, but he seems like he needs to be brought along a little more slowly to grow with the bat.

    Nonetheless, I like the idea that the org is setting up prospects for their initial 2019 assignments. There’s some intelligence to that sort of schedule, for sure. And anything that gets legit prospects out of Florida League inactivity is a good thing.
    Outside of a bad two week stretch Pache has been hitting .300+ and I believe 7 of his 8 homers have come the last 50-55 games or so. This all in a notorious pitchers league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Rainouts play a part in consideration?
    Def—hence my post’s final sentence. I’d be fine demoting or promoting the whole FireFrogs roster, just to ensure them reps.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Def—hence my post’s final sentence. I’d be fine demoting or promoting the whole FireFrogs roster, just to ensure them reps.
    My attention span is short. As a kid from Mississippi, I'm quite sure my mom smoked, drank, and did meth while pregnant with me. Please bear with me

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    I suspect Ronald probably isn't up until mid this year (if even then) if AA was here last year and did what he's been doing now, but I will say this, and it's mainly with one player, having Drew Waters go to Florida technically actually goes against what the Braves did in the past with high school/Latin teens, having them stay one full year in Rome!

    William Contreras isn't a teen though and people were surprised he wasn't given a shot at Rome last year.

    I think this is giving Drew Waters and William Contreras a chance to state their case on where they start next year with Florida's problems rain wise. They do well, they might get themselves placed in AA to start 2019 or start in Florida with the chance to be accelerated to AA quickly before the Florida summer rains commence if they continue.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    If you want Pache to work on plate discipline, don't you need higher quality pitching? I kind of assume it would be a hard skill to learn when the zone is expanded in the lower levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I’m generally in favor of somewhat aggressive promotion, amongst the minor league levels, for a few reasons. But I’m not sure Pache had shown enough, specifically, to warrant it: consistently hitting around .280 with garbage obp and much improved, but still light, power doesn’t scream “promotion” to me. I’ve been on the Pache since last year, but he seems like he needs to be brought along a little more slowly to grow with the bat.

    Nonetheless, I like the idea that the org is setting up prospects for their initial 2019 assignments. There’s some intelligence to that sort of schedule, for sure. And anything that gets legit prospects out of Florida League inactivity is a good thing.
    Maybe he can spend a whole year in AA, but it could also fit with my theory that the FO is not big on Ender.

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    Anderson and Brendan McKay in a nice pitching duel.

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