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    Nothing says I surrender like pinch hitting your worst pinch hitter late, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    Nothing says I surrender like pitching Kolby Allard.
    FTFY

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    Culberson is probably going to pinch hit in what is a 8 run game now. That was your chance, you have to try there and not later.

    Allard being up is awfully bizarre regardless of how you feel unless there's behind the scenes coaching on going with him. I'd rather Sam be back.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Newk is doing a great job making what has been a pretty good season look awful. Dude needs to just damn pitch and do it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    FTFY
    Checking the box every half hour or so. Dude’s really been an unmitigated disaster, huh?
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Newk didn't pitch well in this game, but I'm still not pinning the first 3 runs on him when a weak pop fly fell. Although you should pick up your defense from time to time.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Tonight’s likely loss wouldn’t be a huge deal had we won the game yesterday... thanks, swanson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Right. I’d rather lose a game like this than get flat out embarrassed like that.
    You were saying?
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    You were saying?
    I was saying 10-2 is not even in the same universe as 24-4.

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    Culberson has a 94 mph fastball :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    Culberson has a 94 mph fastball :)
    Is there anything he can't do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipper View Post
    Is there anything he can't do?
    His slider needs some work, also that 94 mph down the middle led to that double. Still he has a good arm.

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    I think we can extrapolate that Culberson would be a dominant AAA starter

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    After seeing that inning, if there's time to, I'd seriously consider letting Charlie Culberson mess around with doing what Andrew Romine did with the Tigers last year.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewdat View Post
    I think we can extrapolate that Culberson would be a dominant AAA starter
    He might even be able to hit 96 mph warmed up more, so if he could add a good slider he'd have a shot at least. But the way he has hit this year he doesn't have to think about that.

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    Not panicking yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I was saying 10-2 is not even in the same universe as 24-4.
    Yea, 24-4 is just about twice as bad.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    The “stuff #4” showed why the “#4” is in his description tonight.

    Hopefully Folty can play the role of stopper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The “stuff #4” showed why the “#4” is in his description tonight.

    Hopefully Folty can play the role of stopper.
    We talking about Newcomb or Culberson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The “stuff #4” showed why the “#4” is in his description tonight.

    Hopefully Folty can play the role of stopper.
    Folty, Newcomb and Guasman. They all have great stuff. They also have one thing in common. We are waiting for them to make that next step. They show flashes. We have seen them dominate. We have seen the go four innings. They all can be considered above average. Can we really have three of the same type of pitchers in the rotation?

    We know a big trade is coming. In fact, by the numbers...a big trade has to happen. So which guys do you trade? My suggestion is to trade one of the three above.

    Wright, Touki, Wilson and Anderson have had more success in the minors than the guys in our rotation EVER did and at a younger age. I really hope none of these guys are moved.

    Gohora, Soroka and Weigel have lost too much value and honestly are probably worth more to us as even a great bullpen peice than to be traded. We know Soroka probably won’t be moved.

    That leaves Allard (who has lost value) and Fried.

    Because of this, that leaves us adding a position player in a deal that we do NOT want to see happen (Pache, Waters, Riley). We do t have the future depth to do this.

    If we traded one of Newk, Folty Gausman...we would still have plenty of talented arms to fill the rotation. We reset our clock also, by gaining years of control.

    In the end I think Wright, Touki, Wilson (short term) should be given a chance , because they are showing more consistancy
    and dominance than Newk and Folty ever have.

    I don’t want us hold onto #3’s (the “could” be more) and trading #1’s, and 2’s....simply because of experience.

    Position wise, imagine if we had three really good outfielders (but none as good as Acuna). We say “Yeah Acuna has had more success at a younger age in the minors and appears to be a long term better player than the guys starting right now, but the guys starting right now are above average players and have more experience....so let’s trade Acuna.”

    It sounds crazy when stated. This is exactly what we are about to do with our pitchers.

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