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    Latest on Zuk??

    Any news??

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    No which isn't good imo. Waiting to release the results of the X-Ray and the CT at the same time isn't the best of news.

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    If bad news, what then? Stewart?

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    Alex Jackson?

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    According to Bowman nothing is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    According to Bowman nothing is broken.
    This is like the 4th time (FF, Acuna x2, and now Suzuki) where we've dodged a bullet. This may actually be the braves' year

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    This is like the 4th time (FF, Acuna x2, and now Suzuki) where we've dodged a bullet. This may actually be the braves' year
    i don't mind. i'll state again how the phillies haven't had a starter get serious injured this year. they may have 4 guys make like 30 starts and another make like 24. how often has that happened? that is insane luck.
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    I'm glad it is not the worst news for Zuk, it looked and sounded worse than when Ronnie got hit by that coward Marlin to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i don't mind. i'll state again how the phillies haven't had a starter get serious injured this year. they may have 4 guys make like 30 starts and another make like 24. how often has that happened? that is insane luck.
    Yeah usually you have like 8-10 guys make a start.

    Braves had like 10-11 already. That is pretty lucky for Philly though, overall i still dont know if they're this lucky ass team like everyone claims they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Yeah usually you have like 8-10 guys make a start.

    Braves had like 10-11 already. That is pretty lucky for Philly though, overall i still dont know if they're this lucky ass team like everyone claims they are.
    im not one to debate ''luck'' but they have overcame some bad defense with very good pitching at key times so far. At least they had till some recent games where the defense cost them.

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    SPs used by 2018 contenders (playoff odds >10%)

    Bos 10
    NYY 11
    Clev 7
    Hous 6 (only 1 by Peacock)
    Oak 13
    Sea 10
    Atl 13
    Phil 9
    Wash 10
    ChC 10
    Mil 9
    StL 11
    LAD 11
    Ariz 10
    Col 7

    The "lucky" team has been the Astros with only a single start not taken by their 5 man rotation.

    The "unlucky" team has been the Braves, though some of that is self imposed due to frequently pushing SPs back for extra rest.

    The Phils are right around average for "luck" with SP health this year, maybe a bit "lucky".

    A contending team should plan on using 10+ SPs during any given regular season, and should stock the cupboards accordingly.

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    The Phillies are the luckiest team ever up to this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie's Chainz View Post
    The Phillies are the luckiest team ever up to this point.
    Less so tonight, thankfully.
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    Zuk seems to have survived the storm. Facebook seems to be holding steady despite the recent negative press.
    thank you weso1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    SPs used by 2018 contenders (playoff odds >10%)

    Bos 10
    NYY 11
    Clev 7
    Hous 6 (only 1 by Peacock)
    Oak 13
    Sea 10
    Atl 13
    Phil 9
    Wash 10
    ChC 10
    Mil 9
    StL 11
    LAD 11
    Ariz 10
    Col 7

    The "lucky" team has been the Astros with only a single start not taken by their 5 man rotation.

    The "unlucky" team has been the Braves, though some of that is self imposed due to frequently pushing SPs back for extra rest.

    The Phils are right around average for "luck" with SP health this year, maybe a bit "lucky".

    A contending team should plan on using 10+ SPs during any given regular season, and should stock the cupboards accordingly.
    i don't think this tells the whole story, tho. yeah, they've lost vasquez/eflin i think for 2-3 starts each so that's probably 2-3 additional SP outside their top 5 since eflin came up.

    i did a quick count of just the first 6 teams in fWAR for # of games started by the top 5 in each rotation (top 5 in # of games started, that is)
    HOU - 126 (insane)
    NYY - 103
    PHI - 116
    BOS - 102
    CLE - 113
    LAD - 97
    ATL - 105

    So 11 games is less than I thought. However, considering we have far better pitching depth those 11 games mean a lot IMO.
    if they had to start enyel de los santos and ranger suarez for even 5 additional games instead of even their back-end guys, they'd prob be at least 5 back.
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    I don't think the most efficient use of a team's resources is having six rotation quality starters in AAA to cover all the likely spot starts, but it's not a huge problem to have that, I don't guess.

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    I think in our case it's been a combination of luck and outcomes that are a reflection of design. The luck part is mainly in the form of Anibal Sanchez. The design part is having all the good young pitching in AAA (and lower levels at the start of the season) that is now giving up some flexibility in how we deploy the rotation. It has allowed us to overcome injuries to McCarthy, Gohara, Soroka and Fried at various points of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think in our case it's been a combination of luck and outcomes that are a reflection of design. The luck part is mainly in the form of Anibal Sanchez. The design part is having all the good young pitching in AAA (and lower levels at the start of the season) that is now giving up some flexibility in how we deploy the rotation. It has allowed us to overcome injuries to McCarthy, Gohara, Soroka and Fried at various points of the season.
    and also give extra rest to guys who look like they may need it.
    pitching depth is a beautiful thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    and also give extra rest to guys who look like they may need it.
    pitching depth is a beautiful thing.
    teams with pitching depth generally perform better in the second half...you can check who is in the AAA rotation at the start of the season and have a pretty good idea of which teams are built to come on strong in the second half
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