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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Rump View Post
    So Wilson can't pitch this weekend because of the 10 day rule then correct?
    Correct, I think there is some loophole that if we DL someone before the 10 days are up then Wilson could come back up earlier than the 10 days but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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    touki should be pitching in atlanta. i guess teheran would be the guy you bump but he's been good and is getting paid a little. i'm sure we'll see touki again this year regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    touki should be pitching in atlanta. i guess teheran would be the guy you bump but he's been good and is getting paid a little. i'm sure we'll see touki again this year regardless.
    No need to bump anybody this year. Give Touki a couple spot starts, then move him to the pen in September. His stuff is too electric in relief not to utilize him this way down the stretch unless a SP gets hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    No need to bump anybody this year. Give Touki a couple spot starts, then move him to the pen in September. His stuff is too electric in relief not to utilize him this way down the stretch unless a SP gets hurt.
    but what if touki is your 2nd best major league starter? he may well be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    but what if touki is your 2nd best major league starter? he may well be.
    then he can earn a job next spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    but what if touki is your 2nd best major league starter? he may well be.
    He could also get lit up. You can’t bump producers for unknowns this close to the finish line.
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    There is video of Touki and Riley

    https://www.mlb.com/news/top-prospec...?tid=151437456
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    then he can earn a job next spring
    but if he can help you this year in the playoffs over other guys...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    He could also get lit up. You can’t bump producers for unknowns this close to the finish line.
    is teheran a "producer"? he's bound to get lit up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    but if he can help you this year in the playoffs over other guys...

    He's not supplanting Newk, Folty, or Gausman

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    Borkovich continues to very quietly put together a strong year. Not flashy and nobody talks about him, but he simply doesn't walk anybody (<2 BBs/9). Could be a nice pen piece at some point.
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    Any chance Riley gets a cup of coffee? He'd be a valuable bench bat down the stretch.

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    Expect the Braves to follow the recent BP usage model in the playoffs pioneered by the Indians.

    The Braves don't have a single SP that has any business facing any batter in a lineup 3 times (unless Newk or Folty are going and the top of the lineup offers them a clear platoon advantage). The SPs will be going 18-20 batters, which will only cover 4-5 innings in most playoff games. This will require the Braves to use guys like Touki for 9-10 batters to cover 2-3 innings in several games.

    The Braves are uniquely set up to deploy the pitching staff in such a manner due to their depth of young arms. Hopefully Touki, Gohara and Fried (and perhaps Wilson) are ready to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Expect the Braves to follow the recent BP usage model in the playoffs pioneered by the Indians.

    The Braves don't have a single SP that has any business facing any batter in a lineup 3 times (unless Newk or Folty are going and the top of the lineup offers them a clear platoon advantage). The SPs will be going 18-20 batters, which will only cover 4-5 innings in most playoff games. This will require the Braves to use guys like Touki for 9-10 batters to cover 2-3 innings in several games.

    The Braves are uniquely set up to deploy the pitching staff in such a manner due to their depth of young arms. Hopefully Touki, Gohara and Fried (and perhaps Wilson) are ready to do it.
    I agree with this and profoundly approve of this approach. My fear is twitner following his gut to alter the game plan. I can see him saying. Well Newk was throwing really good at the time so I went with my gut and let him go in the sixth. Arizona is really good and they just got to him there. Sometime really good player do that to you. They are really good. Newk is really good. Just really good players battleing it out really good.
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    I agree 100% thats the route we should go but is there any reason to believe they will actually do that? I might let a starter go 6 if they are really dominating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Expect the Braves to follow the recent BP usage model in the playoffs pioneered by the Indians.

    The Braves don't have a single SP that has any business facing any batter in a lineup 3 times (unless Newk or Folty are going and the top of the lineup offers them a clear platoon advantage). The SPs will be going 18-20 batters, which will only cover 4-5 innings in most playoff games. This will require the Braves to use guys like Touki for 9-10 batters to cover 2-3 innings in several games.

    The Braves are uniquely set up to deploy the pitching staff in such a manner due to their depth of young arms. Hopefully Touki, Gohara and Fried (and perhaps Wilson) are ready to do it.
    I hope we do this but absolutely do not expect it. I don't think Snitker is prepared to be progressive enough to do that. He'll basically run our top starters out there for 100ish pitches, maybe 100+, unless they just get hammered early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I agree with this and profoundly approve of this approach. My fear is twitner following his gut to alter the game plan. I can see him saying. Well Newk was throwing really good at the time so I went with my gut and let him go in the sixth. Arizona is really good and they just got to him there. Sometime really good player do that to you. They are really good. Newk is really good. Just really good players battleing it out really good.
    EXACTLY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I agree with this and profoundly approve of this approach. My fear is twitner following his gut to alter the game plan. I can see him saying. Well Newk was throwing really good at the time so I went with my gut and let him go in the sixth. Arizona is really good and they just got to him there. Sometime really good player do that to you. They are really good. Newk is really good. Just really good players battleing it out really good.
    We've seen teams completely alter their pitching usage patterns in the playoffs. So much so that it must have been at the direction of the FO.

    Hopefully AA gives Snit a script of what to do, he understands it, and follows it.

    Teams have shown the blueprint for success in the playoffs, and I can't imagine even Snit is blind to how well it has worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I hope we do this but absolutely do not expect it. I don't think Snitker is prepared to be progressive enough to do that. He'll basically run our top starters out there for 100ish pitches, maybe 100+, unless they just get hammered early.
    I think snit will follow orders though. I.e. stop playing Camargo at ss. Start sitting ender vs lhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    is teheran a "producer"? he's bound to get lit up again.
    Teheran wouldn’t be in my playoff rotation at this point. Folty, Newk, Gausman and Sanchez would be my SP if the playoffs started today.

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