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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    It's also why i dont see us in on QO guys, we need all our draft picks given the international limitations.

    Our farm is good, but the depth after the top 12 or so is very, very thin. I do think we'll make some trades but given what happened in Toronto and learning what LA does, i think he'll be smart in trades. But we'll see. Braves window wont last forever though.
    Actually hoping we trade some slot money for another comp pick. That would go a very long way to reload the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...entire-market/

    explains a little why segura's value was suppressed. makes some sense. i didn't realize he had attitude issues other places, and when you look at it, few teams needed a SS.
    I think he overstates his case, though. The Braves could have used a Segura upgrade for sure and I'm sure a few other teams would have interest as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    why?
    Age 35-37 seasons, for 15 mil a year, hard pass.

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    I would have done Dansby, Julio and a guy like Wiegel or something for Segura in a second. Still baffled as it only took Santana/Crawford for him.

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    Rosenthal said the M's value Haniger very highly and it would take a haul to land him, and they dont wanna add any salary with him in a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I would have done Dansby, Julio and a guy like Wiegel or something for Segura in a second. Still baffled as it only took Santana/Crawford for him.
    Doesn’t sound like wiegel would be needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Rosenthal said the M's value Haniger very highly and it would take a haul to land him, and they dont wanna add any salary with him in a trade.
    As it should, honestly. I love trading and making moves as much as anyone, and I'm not one who often overacts to players, but I absolutely think Haniger is worth a big haul. He checks every box we need, is a good defender, good-to-great hitter and completely takes our lineup to the next level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Age 35-37 seasons, for 15 mil a year, hard pass.
    Greinke would outperform that contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    As it should, honestly. I love trading and making moves as much as anyone, and I'm not one who often overacts to players, but I absolutely think Haniger is worth a big haul. He checks every box we need, is a good defender, good-to-great hitter and completely takes our lineup to the next level.
    The concern i have with Haniger is, was last year a trend or a fluke? But yes, the Braves do have the prospect capital to land him. Whether he's available or AA makes a move for him, is anyones guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    The concern i have with Haniger is, was last year a trend or a fluke? But yes, the Braves do have the prospect capital to land him. Whether he's available or AA makes a move for him, is anyones guess.
    I'm ok pricing him as a 2.5 win player. To price him as a 4 win player would be a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Rosenthal said the M's value Haniger very highly and it would take a haul to land him, and they dont wanna add any salary with him in a trade.
    If they're punting the next 2 years it would be dumb to hold on to Haniger.

    If they're planning on trading Seager, which I think they will, Riley sure would look good for their future plans.

    I'm not sure of Haniger's surplus value, but a deal based around Riley and pitching could make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    The concern i have with Haniger is, was last year a trend or a fluke? But yes, the Braves do have the prospect capital to land him. Whether he's available or AA makes a move for him, is anyones guess.
    Dude just has a good feel for hitting. He's not perfect, but he's a damn good hitter and we'll be really stupid to not get him if we can.

    Acuna RF
    Haniger LF
    Freeman 1B
    Donaldson 3B
    Albies 2B
    Ender CF
    Mac/Flowers C
    Swanson SS

    That is an INSANELY deep lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    If they're punting the next 2 years it would be dumb to hold on to Haniger.

    If they're planning on trading Seager, which I think they will, Riley sure would look good for their future plans.

    I'm not sure of Haniger's surplus value, but a deal based around Riley and pitching could make sense.
    Agreed, and I'd do it. I'm sure it'll be a really hard deal for Atlanta as it'd probably be at least Riley, Wright/Touki and another top-tier guy, but I'm for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'm ok pricing him as a 2.5 win player. To price him as a 4 win player would be a mistake.
    Well you gotta give to get, and the Braves cant keep all these guys while trying to win now. The window wont stay open forever.

    I dont know what a trade package would look like for Haniger but it would cost a lot. Only players i'd hold onto are one of Waters/Pache, i dont think both will be on the Braves by 2020, and i wouldnt trade Contreras. He's like our only catcher prospect worth a damn right now.

    I'd offer something like Riley, one of Soroka/Wright/Anderson/Touki, Wiegel and Muller/Wentz. Probably too much but gotta give something up. Two of Wright/Soroka/Touki/Anderson with Riley would be tough on AA. But we do have two first round picks to use, including a top 10 pick so there's some offsetting there. Assuming we can actually sign them this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    The concern i have with Haniger is, was last year a trend or a fluke? But yes, the Braves do have the prospect capital to land him. Whether he's available or AA makes a move for him, is anyones guess.
    If you look at his 2017 stats they are very similar to his 2018 stats. He just had 273 less plate appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Dude just has a good feel for hitting. He's not perfect, but he's a damn good hitter and we'll be really stupid to not get him if we can.

    Acuna RF
    Haniger LF
    Freeman 1B
    Donaldson 3B
    Albies 2B
    Ender CF
    Mac/Flowers C
    Swanson SS

    That is an INSANELY deep lineup.
    He's certainly the best fit, im not a big as fan of Peralta as everyone is here. I'd want an everyday guy, not a platoon type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Rosenthal said the M's value Haniger very highly and it would take a haul to land him, and they dont wanna add any salary with him in a trade.
    That's fine. We have the prospects to match up, both major league ready and ones further away with high upside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I think he overstates his case, though. The Braves could have used a Segura upgrade for sure and I'm sure a few other teams would have interest as well.
    i agree. tho i don't think we were looking to replace swanson, and i'm not sure we should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    The concern i have with Haniger is, was last year a trend or a fluke? But yes, the Braves do have the prospect capital to land him. Whether he's available or AA makes a move for him, is anyones guess.
    Same line as the year prior. That's 1.5 years of the same level of play, and nearly an identical minor league line as well.

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