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    In Bowman's latest mailbag he mentions Markakis, Cutch and CarGo as possible FAs. He also says Haniger would be a perfect fit, but the Ms aren't looking to deal him. No mention of Brantley.

    Please tell me we won't be stuck watching a CarGo/Duvall platoon in LF next year...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post


    Umm
    This worries me.

    They spent $23M on 3B when they have Camargo sitting there for free.

    They have been tied to SPs and BP arms all off season despite having the largest collection of young pitching talent in the game.

    They are tied to Realmuto after already piecing together a decent platoon at catcher.

    All the while there is this gaping hole in LF, and the rumors of guys like Markakis and CarGo teaming up with Duvall as the most likely solution.

    This is not shaking out as the best use of resources...it's like a guy with a car that works buying a Telsa and then fixing the hole in his roof by laying a tarp over it.
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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    Matt Adams to the Tampa Bay Rays for Jake Odorizzi makes too much sense not to happen -clvclv 10/17/17
    Matt Adams non-tendered by Braves 12/2/17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    In Bowman's latest mailbag he mentions Markakis, Cutch and CarGo as possible FAs. He also says Haniger would be a perfect fit, but the Ms aren't looking to deal him. No mention of Brantley.

    Please tell me we won't be stuck watching a CarGo/Duvall platoon in LF next year...
    Bowman has been wrong about the moves AA would make a lot since he took over. So I am hoping he is wrong yet again and I agree Cargo/Markakis would be disappointing. We need to do better as the NL East is improving. Phillies made a big trade and have money to do more, Mets got better short term (and worse long-term) and are looking at Pollock while the Nats pitching is improved by adding Corbin (though I don't like that signing for them long-term).
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    AA works pretty quietly so who knows who he is targeting but if it's a platoon in the outfield, i'm not sure how much better the offense is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    AA works pretty quietly so who knows who he is targeting but if it's a platoon in the outfield, i'm not sure how much better the offense is.
    true, this is why Bowman has been wrong a lot with him so far. He usually doesn't leak his plans till already done.

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    I’d be perfectly fine getting Realmuto if we intend on signing Cutch. But if it means bringing back Markakis then no thanks. Isn’t Fish stripes the one who broke the Yelich and Ozuna trades? They are usually pretty spot on with Marlins stuff so there is probably a lot of truth to what they are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post


    Umm
    Proposed offer for who?
    Edit: never mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Proposed offer for who?
    Realmuto, if it was Riley, one of Allard/Gohara/Wilson and a Muller/Wiegel/Wentz type, i'd do that. If thats true, but also seems the Mets really want JTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I’d be perfectly fine getting Realmuto if we intend on signing Cutch.
    Assuming fhe cost is similar, which would rather have?

    Realmuto & Cutch or Haniger & Happ (or FA SP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesguy View Post
    Assuming fhe cost is similar, which would rather have?

    Realmuto & Cutch or Haniger & Happ (or FA SP)
    Realmuto and Cutch

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    Acuna
    Donaldson
    Freeman
    Realmuto
    Cutch
    Albies
    Inciarte
    Swanson

    That would be legit and scary for any team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Realmuto, if it was Riley, one of Allard/Gohara/Wilson and a Muller/Wiegel/Wentz type, i'd do that. If thats true, but also seems the Mets really want JTR.
    I could see AA doing a trade like that and trading Newcomb to Arizona for Peralta. That would give us a line-up of Acuna-Donaldson-Freeman-Realmuto-Peralta at the top. That's strong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Agreed. I think people are overreacting to the fact that Weaver and Kelly have struggled initially at the MLB level. Their chances of being a bust is high, but I still think they have the same upside that they always had. This is more than I figured the D'backs would get.
    yup...same point I was making about Crawford

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    yup...same point I was making about Crawford
    Yeah I didn't have a huge problem with the Crawford portion of the deal. It was the rest of it that was baffling to me.

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    This was 5 days before Donaldson signed. No one knows what AA is doing until it's announced. Just a wait and guess game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post


    This was 5 days before Donaldson signed. No one knows what AA is doing until it's announced. Just a wait and guess game.
    Haha, yea DOB is wrong even more often than Bowman it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post


    Umm
    Source?

    Also- this guy with the fish is just tripling down we are all over JT. I guess things opened back up when he turned down an extension? Still nothing from the Braves side though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    This worries me.

    They spent $23M on 3B when they have Camargo sitting there for free.

    They have been tied to SPs and BP arms all off season despite having the largest collection of young pitching talent in the game.

    They are tied to Realmuto after already piecing together a decent platoon at catcher.

    All the while there is this gaping hole in LF, and the rumors of guys like Markakis and CarGo teaming up with Duvall as the most likely solution.

    This is not shaking out as the best use of resources...it's like a guy with a car that works buying a Telsa and then fixing the hole in his roof by laying a tarp over it.
    I guess it depends on what we think Riley’s value is at this point. Say it’s Riley and two lesser prospects for Realmuto. If the FO isn’t high on Riley, I think they make that deal regardless of the OF situation. Realmuto is a clear upgrade over Flowers and McCann, and we have other ways of obtaining a Corner OF, not to mention that Camargo could feasibly get some time in LF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I see no data that suggests the overall MLB population is "going for the downs" despite warning track power. Anecdotes about Albies and Inciarte are not data.

    FOs know better than ever what wins baseball games, and they are adjusting accordingly. There's a reason we've heard numerous stories about guys increasing their launch angle for more success, and zero stories of guys decreasing their launch angle for more success. I have literally never seen a story that says a guy decided to hit more grounders and his career took off.

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    What about Willie Mays Hayes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Acuna
    Donaldson
    Freeman
    Realmuto
    Cutch
    Albies
    Inciarte
    Swanson

    That would be legit and scary for any team.
    Ya... but...

    Folty
    Gausman
    Teheran
    Newk?
    Soroka healthy?

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