Projected to earn $9M in 2019, and FG has him projected for 0.5 wins. I'll take ther over on that, and I'm sure any team acquiring him will as well. His surplus value is less than $10M though.
Frazier falls in that hard to value "post hype prospect" category, but he was considered a 55 when he was a prospect. Those guys have a value around $45M, and it's possible some of the shine has worn off Frazier a bit, so his value may be a little lower.
I'd value the Gray/Frazier package around $40M+, which is why I suggested Gohara as the return. He's exactly the type of arm the Yankees would turn into the next Andrew Miller monster out their BP, and then everyone would once again marvel at how great the Yankees pitching development system is.
Last edited by Enscheff; 12-12-2018 at 02:52 PM.
It's McCutchen.
All evidence points to the fact they saw Cutch at the same level as Markakis and Cargo. That means they misread the cOF market.
If they settle on Markakis or Cargo because they spent $23M on JD, that was a bad choice based upon bad market projection.
We will see.
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I feel like the Reds might scoop in and get him but i'm not sure i get the fit. All of the Cubs/Cards/Brewers are playoff caliber teams within the division and idk if JT would sign long-term there. Even though the Reds do have some nice pieces.
Last edited by Heyward; 12-12-2018 at 03:00 PM.
Thanks! There's a fit there. Gray would help fill out our rotation, especially if he can rebound a bit leaving Yankee stadium and the AL East. Frazier isn't as shiny as he once was but I could still see him becoming a solid major leaguer and help fill out our OF.
If we were to get Realmuto, that might give us a little room to take a chance on someone like Frazier and see if it pays off.
I feel like people always overvalue Yankee prospects for some reason. Frazier looks at least as likely to be a quad A player as a MLB regular to me. Why do people find him attractive enough that they would deal a FV55 pitcher for Frazier and a glass arm?
Go get him!
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I like the Enscheff Yankees trade idea of Gray/Frazier for Gohara+a little (say Wilson) but only if it doesn't end there.
Then I'd go Inciarte and Newk for Kluber
Plus Teheran, Allard & Wright for Leake, Bruce and Haniger
The Braves give up arguably their top prospect in Wright, top lefty in Gohara, a good RH prospect in Wilson, plus Inciarte and Newk. And they take on $13M (Kluber) + ~$7M (Gray) + $16M (Leake) + $13M (Bruce) - $11M (Teheran) - $ 5M (Inciarte) with Newk and Hanniger being a wash, so the Braves take on a net of ~$33M. If they are currently at $107M that would make them at $91M without Teheran and Inciarte so a total of $140M which might leave no more room to fill in unless the cut Duvall, Viz etc..
You end up with:
LF Frazier
CF Acuna
RF Hanniger
1B Freeman
2B Albies
SS Swanson
3B Donaldson
C McCann
Bench: Culberson, Camargo, Duvall, Bruce, Flowers
SP:
Kluber
Folty
Gausman
Leake
Gray
with Fried, Touki, Soroka, Anderson, etc. all sitting in wait for a spot
You still would like to see a real closer if finances allow (would likely result in the trade or release of Viz) and could still be players on JTR if the price comes down, something like Camargo, Fried and Wentz
Of course this pre-supposes that the Mariners would want to move the payroll instead of maximizing the talent return for Hanniger.
Last edited by Horsehide Harry; 12-12-2018 at 03:08 PM.
Why do we need Realmuto again? He doesn't play the OF.