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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Wait, what? Why in the world do you think we're sacrificing defense and framing for offense at catcher? Flowers is an elite pitch framer and McCann has been a good one for most of his career, while neither of them are very good hitters right now.
    I think he meant if we got JTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    We could, sure. We can cut Duval and wouldn't owe him a ton of money. Just doubt we'd bring Neck back as a bench bat. Trading Ender makes more sense, but no idea to who/for what. A Pedo/Acuna/Neck OF? Ehhh
    If we cut Duvall before ST we owe him nothing. If it's during ST it's like a prorated amount and if he breaks camp with the club then he gets it all.

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    Would JTR even be a significant upgrade over last year's catcher production? I thought someone ran the numbers and it was basically a wash.

    I'm waiting on AA to do something brilliant to blow my mind. I just don't see a lot of pathways for doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRunningAgent View Post
    Why release him if he can be traded in a package? Maybe back to LA along with Culberson for Pedersen? A bigger deal including Teheran would work if we get a decent reliever back too. Maybe this is the 70% deal?
    Bc nobody will want to trade for him let alone adding him with Teheran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Wait, what? Why in the world do you think we're sacrificing defense and framing for offense at catcher? Flowers is an elite pitch framer and McCann has been a good one for most of his career, while neither of them are very good hitters right now.
    We're willing to by trading for realmuto... assuming we are willing to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Would JTR even be a significant upgrade over last year's catcher production? I thought someone ran the numbers and it was basically a wash.

    I'm waiting on AA to do something brilliant to blow my mind. I just don't see a lot of pathways for doing that.
    JTR put up 4.8 fWAR. suzuki and flowers combined for 3.2. so it’s a good bit more, and it’s just coming from 1 guy rather than 2. he would be a huge upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    Can’t hate on that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Can’t hate on that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    JTR put up 4.8 fWAR. suzuki and flowers combined for 3.2. so it’s a good bit more, and it’s just coming from 1 guy rather than 2. he would be a huge upgrade.
    That doesn't include pitch framing. That said whether you look at BP or Stat Corner the overall effect between Suzuki/Flowers and JTR is about +.5 WAR for Suzuki/Flowers.

    Also I believe that JTR would improve offensively by getting out of Miami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Would JTR even be a significant upgrade over last year's catcher production? I thought someone ran the numbers and it was basically a wash.

    I'm waiting on AA to do something brilliant to blow my mind. I just don't see a lot of pathways for doing that.
    If we could see the move coming it wouldn’t be brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    I....am thoroughly confused

    I have to assume the Pederson discussions happened before they signed Markakis. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense to have 3 LHH requiring a platoon mate.

    Something big has to be in the works though. There’s no other acceptable reason to settle for Markakis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I have to assume the Pederson discussions happened before they signed Markakis. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense to have 3 LHH requiring a platoon mate.

    Something big has to be in the works though. There’s no other acceptable reason to settle for Markakis.

    ^^^ Here's to hoping!

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    Mish: Nothing to update. Marlins still covet Braves prospects above all others. ATL waiting on Marlins to make an official proposal. When that happens, ATL must decide how far they will go. If not far enough, he goes elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    It'll make more sense when we trade ender
    Unless Ender is going to Cleveland for a larger Kluber trade, I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Unless Ender is going to Cleveland for a larger Kluber trade, I don't get it.
    Kluber and realmuto, come on down...



    Or either we sign flaherty

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    Who do the Marlins want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    So Rivera is the first unanimous player in the HOF. Ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian22 View Post
    Who do the Marlins want?
    Who is our #1 prospect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Mish: Nothing to update. Marlins still covet Braves prospects above all others. ATL waiting on Marlins to make an official proposal. When that happens, ATL must decide how far they will go. If not far enough, he goes elsewhere.
    I'm sure they do but how far do they wanna go and does ATL being within division make them want more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Who is our #1 prospect?
    Some say Soroka, some say Anderson, some say Riley.

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