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Thread: 2018 Offseason And Targets

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Bryce Harper projects to be a 5 WAR player. Donaldson+McCann+Muk project to be 6 WAR players total.

    So that's the simple part.

    Then add the risk associated with a long-term commitment.

    Plus the fact Bryce is going to make an AAV north of the 31M you are assuming.

    Plus a good chance we get a draft pick from losing Donaldson.

    And your question answers itself.
    Wouldn’t you have to include the other starters at those positions to make this comparison work? Like you did on the Braves? Basically signing Harper at that salary would have inserted a full time 3b still at a minimum
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    What's an optimistic but still realistic outlook for our catchers this year WAR wise?
    I think 2-2.5 conservatively. 2.6-3+ optimistically.

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    Glad we didn't make a similar trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I think 2-2.5 conservatively. 2.6-3+ optimistically.
    If you factor in framing, I think you could maybe be a little more aggressive than that. WARP had Flowers at 2.9 last year in just 82 games and I think a healthy McCann could reasonably be expected to put up another win or two. If going by WARP, my guess would be about 3.5-4.5 collectively

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    Good, someone else overpaid for Realmuto. He wasn't a significant enough upgrade over what we have to justify that in my opinion. An OF would be, but not catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Good, someone else overpaid for Realmuto. He wasn't a significant enough upgrade over what we have to justify that in my opinion. An OF would be, but not catcher.
    Yeah i would not have wanted him for that price. Would've preferred he'd gone to the Reds or the Rays tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Wouldn’t you have to include the other starters at those positions to make this comparison work? Like you did on the Braves? Basically signing Harper at that salary would have inserted a full time 3b still at a minimum
    it is a more complicated thing than that...if Camargo is going to get 100 or so starts as a utility player you have to replace that as well...
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    Ha to all you who thought AA has the balls to do anything.
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    So MLB is renaming the disabled list the injury list because they believe there it causes a misconception that disabled people are injured and can't participate in sports.

    I saw this on Twitter and thought it was an Onion article until I saw it was from ESPN.

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    Well- to be fair, I think most folks are glad AA didn’t do anything totally dumb here. While it may not look “ballsy,” this is a long long process, and there is certainly no reason to overpay - which in my opinion Philly just did, and anything more than Riley (which would have pissed me off- I think he’s a stud and our future 3B in ‘20 when **** gets real) was even worse.
    Sorry for length- to sum: good for fish - kinda. Bad for philly. Great for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Flowers is really good at pitch framing. If he hits anywhere near his 16 and 17 levels the Braves will be one of the better teams in the league at the position. I just don't think that's anywhere close to a guarantee right now.
    Remains to be seen how much of the catching he does. MCCann in theory is the bigger part of platoon, but I assume flowers will get more starts.

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    Haniger Time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Remains to be seen how much of the catching he does. MCCann in theory is the bigger part of platoon, but I assume flowers will get more starts.
    Assuming Flowers is healthy all year he should be the primary catcher. At this point he is the better player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck75 View Post
    Haniger Time?
    Nah, it’s Machado and Haniger time..😀

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    Castelanos for me. If he doesn't work out trade him at the deadline. If he does,we have our DH for next yr. Might as well sign Kimbrel too.

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    I like clv's idea of gio and marwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    So MLB is renaming the disabled list the injury list because they believe there it causes a misconception that disabled people are injured and can't participate in sports.

    I saw this on Twitter and thought it was an Onion article until I saw it was from ESPN.
    Better go ahead and change the International League to the Disabled League to clean up any confusion with the initials

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    So MLB is renaming the disabled list the injury list because they believe there it causes a misconception that disabled people are injured and can't participate in sports.

    I saw this on Twitter and thought it was an Onion article until I saw it was from ESPN.
    Should have changed it to the Distressed list or something like that. DL had a nice ring to it.
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