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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    13 years $330 mil is the report
    with no opt outs. lol. he got his record deal though. grats

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    with no opt outs. lol. he got his record deal though. grats
    Oddly enough though only $25 mil/year average.

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    Time for the fans to finally demand changes. New owner, new team president and new GM.

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    Joel Sherman says contrary to reports there are opt outs...

    But 13 years...wow
    Mark Bowman's reports carry a lot of gravity

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    Joel Sherman says contrary to reports there are opt outs...

    But 13 years...wow
    With opt outs I'd think it would be front loaded but who knows. 13 years is a long time.

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    13 years with no opt outs.
    desperately didn't want to play in philly.
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    hard not to be disappointed that the Braves not only didn't improve in the OF, but took a step back.
    please don't tell me about value either
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    Oh and Donaldsons debut pushed back to Sunday

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    Imo Machado and Harper are about the same player in terms of value. So Machado gets 300M for 10 years. Harper gets 300M for 10 years, plus an extra 30M for his ages 36-38 seasons. Seems about right. I think both got paid the going market rate of somewhere between 8M to 9M per expected win.

    Neither is a great deal for the clubs concerned. But neither is a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    Folty hurt, Gausman hurt, Gohara hurt, Soroka hurt, Touki sucks. Happy Thursday lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    hard not to be disappointed that the Braves not only didn't improve in the OF, but took a step back.
    please don't tell me about value either
    Yup. Any excuses are trash. Atlanta screwed this up big time. I like AA, but he looks like a dumbass right now.
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    Harper is all about power. Not very good defensively. Not good in the club house. Doesn’t hit for average. Walks a lot because of the power. Once the power goes down in about five years...so will the walks. The Phillies could be looking at eight years of a bad player making $25 mil a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Harper is all about power. Not very good defensively. Not good in the club house. Doesn’t hit for average. Walks a lot because of the power. Once the power goes down in about five years...so will the walks. The Phillies could be looking at eight years of a bad player making $25 mil a year.
    it is certain to be an albatross at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Yup. Any excuses are trash. Atlanta screwed this up big time. I like AA, but he looks like a dumbass right now.
    Well, I really thought there was another move coming after the Nick signing (like JTR).

    I think we really have to hope that prospects and young guys (like Dansby and Ozzie)...really out perform predictions now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Well, I really thought there was another move coming after the Nick signing (like JTR).

    I think we really have to hope that prospects and young guys (like Dansby and Ozzie)...really out perform predictions now.
    Most definitely. They have to do it. I can understand saving money but AA seriously might cost us a year of contention. Insane. MAKE THE DAMN TRADES AND GET BETTER.

    McCutchen, Segura, Harper, Hoskins, Realmuto, Herrera, Franco and Hernandez is going to be tough to beat, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Most definitely. They have to do it. I can understand saving money but AA seriously might cost us a year of contention. Insane. MAKE THE DAMN TRADES AND GET BETTER.

    McCutchen, Segura, Harper, Hoskins, Realmuto, Herrera, Franco and Hernandez is going to be tough to beat, man.
    I don't think it's about "saving money." there just isn't any available.
    also herrera and franco aren't particularly good. hernandez is ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Well, I really thought there was another move coming after the Nick signing (like JTR).

    I think we really have to hope that prospects and young guys (like Dansby and Ozzie)...really out perform predictions now.
    Hoping for many players and prospects to all outperform their projections is a moronic and risky proposition. AA screwed the pooch this offseason. End of discussion. Might as well use the 23 mil invested in Donaldson to pay down the debt further. At least then we’d be one step closer to being done with the debt and actually using the money to invest in the team later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Most definitely. They have to do it. I can understand saving money but AA seriously might cost us a year of contention. Insane. MAKE THE DAMN TRADES AND GET BETTER.

    McCutchen, Segura, Harper, Hoskins, Realmuto, Herrera, Franco and Hernandez is going to be tough to beat, man.
    They add four studs to their everyday lineup and we add an oft injured Donaldson, an aging and declining McCann and Markakis. Thanks, AA. You’ve done a bang up job this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    I don't think it's about "saving money." there just isn't any available.
    also herrera and franco aren't particularly good. hernandez is ok
    Then trade some of our young guys. I know this is more in-the-moment than anything, but there's no excuse for AA not doing anything. You have to be smart. Even a trade for Realmuto likely makes us NL East favorites. We did almost nothing to make our team better but hope and pray that the young guys improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Then trade some of our young guys. I know this is more in-the-moment than anything, but there's no excuse for AA not doing anything. You have to be smart. Even a trade for Realmuto likely makes us NL East favorites. We did almost nothing to make our team better but hope and pray that the young guys improve.
    Marlins reportedly wanted Anderson, Pache/Riley and Wilson/Wright/Touki, per Heyman. I get wanting to make moves but that would be an all-time bad move.

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